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Vegas massacre - we are now beyond truth

Posted on 10/05/2017 7:34:49 PM PDT by Treeless Branch

This very well might be the very point of the government failing to release any evidence of a motive; however, we are now beyond truth. What I mean by that is now - no matter what evidence the government releases, most of the people will simply not believe it. I won't. Even if they say it is Isis or a Democrat or both, I wont believe it. In this day and age, there is simply no reson why the FBI doesn't have a confident understanding of his motive. The government literally has access to every communication in our country. They WIRETAPPED THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. but they have no clue here. Whatever.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: chat; corruption; revelation; scandal; soon; vanity
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To: gaijin

Where did you find info on #6?


121 posted on 10/06/2017 4:09:58 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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To: txnativegop
I would suggest using Occam’s Razor as a guide, given your skepticism.

I prefer the dog that didn't bark logic. The lying, corrupt deep state government isn't screaming that the puke was a Trump supporting neo-nazi racist. They aren't saying anything.

It is therefore something inconvenient to the deep state. Either ISIS, antifa or F&F II bolloxed up again.

122 posted on 10/06/2017 4:17:00 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: Natufian

P.S.

Here’s a shoe that fits you:

“There’s a sucker born every minute.”


123 posted on 10/06/2017 4:19:14 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: TTFlyer

Maybe I am but I’ll wait to make my mind up once I’ve got as much information as i can. To do otherwise is what children do.


124 posted on 10/06/2017 4:23:43 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Treeless Branch

Why would American citizens tend not to believe everything the FBI tells us?


125 posted on 10/06/2017 5:19:20 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Bullish

There is no dossier on every individual Freeper. Most of us are armchair quarterback’s whose lives are pretty boring. :-)


126 posted on 10/06/2017 5:35:56 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: TTFlyer
A thoroughly corrupt government/media/justice system is regarded with suspicion and cynicism by the people.

Thus the reason for the 2nd Amendment!

127 posted on 10/06/2017 5:46:56 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Sarcasm, right?


128 posted on 10/06/2017 6:01:47 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: gaijin

Just when the OP was helping me out, you came and pulled me back IN with possible intrigue!


129 posted on 10/06/2017 7:47:26 AM PDT by avenir (The LORD says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.")
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To: proust

Yep...The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity!


130 posted on 10/06/2017 7:49:35 AM PDT by avenir (The LORD says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.")
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To: txnativegop

Not only had I heard of it, I thought I had invented it! Been saying this for years, having figured it out for myself when working for the US Government. Hanlon’s Razor... the guy is a genius... I shall attribute it correctly in the future.


131 posted on 10/06/2017 7:52:41 AM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Crazy people doing crazy things we can survive, as they are relatively rare. It’s the power mongers, who love the smell of chaos in the morning, that are fatal to us. They take Crazy and expand their power upon it.

May God confound them and restore sane leadership to our country!


132 posted on 10/06/2017 7:55:29 AM PDT by avenir (The LORD says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.")
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To: Treeless Branch

We are beyond truth because the Truth doesn’t matter. Facts don’t matter. Everyone filters what they see and hear through their philosophical biases. Its a human trait that explains political parties. Confirmation Bias, and Disconfirmation Bias are extremely strong. Everyone is deluded in some ways by those. The better of us at least understand those things, and remain skeptical even of themselves.


133 posted on 10/06/2017 7:56:32 AM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: cherry

PawPaw Teump can go full brass knuckles on our domestic enemies and I’ll support him. He should enlist us to help and we will right this ship. Ain’t no one gonna be happy with the demonic twits running free and unopposed as they are. Time for a serious spanking. If administered effectively they will slink back and find something else to do.

According to God’s Word, the upright are RIGHT and the wicked are WRONG. Stop allowing the phony self-righteousness of the Left to accuse us of lack of compassion.

Enough with cascading perversions of these evil domestic enemies!


134 posted on 10/06/2017 8:08:59 AM PDT by avenir (The LORD says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.")
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To: EnglishOnly

Just my 2 cents here as I use hotels most every weekend for work...

As long as you leave your “do not disturb” sign out, housekeeping won’t come in until your near checkout time.

And my coworkers and I each bring in at least 2 big bags with us. Nobody knows what we could possibly have in them.

I suppose it would be pretty easy to bring in a bunch of guns and ammo. If you’re up to no good, you probably don’t cart it all in at one time anyway.


135 posted on 10/06/2017 8:27:38 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Treeless Branch
Why would American citizens tend not to believe everything the FBI tells us?

Sarcasm

There is no dossier on every individual Freeper. Most of us are armchair quarterback’s whose lives are pretty boring.

Truth

136 posted on 10/06/2017 12:00:45 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Treeless Branch

We’re always beyond truth on these things because 90% of the people have their narrative and will fit the facts accordingly. As for the FBI not knowing the motives it’s quite believable they wouldn’t yet. If he didn’t write it down they’ll never know. This is one of those people watch too much TV things, in TV motives are always easy to figure out, in reality not so much.


137 posted on 10/06/2017 12:03:30 PM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: discostu

Almost two days since I started this thread. I suspect we will get a pretty big reveal today from the FBI middle afternoon or late night because it’s the perfect news dump time when an already deluded American populous is paying even les attention.


138 posted on 10/07/2017 5:47:38 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: Treeless Branch

Less than 6 days after the event. Proper investigations take WEEKS, sometime MONTHS. By the time there’s a reveal you will have moved on.


139 posted on 10/07/2017 7:11:48 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: joethedrummer

Sometimes if we just throw all the known clues on the table, they naturally form the events themselves.

Here are a few I heard recently, which begin to make more sense than the first reports.

The shooter was checked into a suite in a major casino.

The shooter was associated with high stakes video gaming, with betting in the $10k range on a routine daily basis, and had been for several years.

The relatives of the shooter had been givein their fortunes from the shooter, to the extent that they don’t consider $100k a significant sum of money.

The shooter is characterized as meticulously planning his actions based upon risk and maneuver.

There were some 20 weapons found in the shooter’s hotel suite, and most had not been used.

There also were about 20 weapons found in the shooter’s home.

There were 2 broken/open windows in the shooter’s suite.

The attempts at full auto with the weapons used will tend to overheat the barrel after about 100 rounds are fired continuously.

Over 500 casualties in 10 minutes of shooting.

The suite and the shooter were staying in a casino hotel.

Casinos which handle large volumes of cash, tend to have higher security measures than most other establishments.

Casino cameras and security tend to map every possible or conceivable access to their property and on their property.

If the casino hotel suite was not monitored for 20 automatic weapons being cached in that location, then it is likely a matter of time before thieves will begin to cache weapons and ammo in hotel suites to rob the casinos. (If not monitored, it sure seems like a significant security vulnerability.)

If the shooter didn’t use more than several weapons, and he was a meticulous planner, then why would he risk discovery by taking 10x the amount of weaponry than he planned to use and store it in a casino hotel room, with likely hidden security monitoring systems?

Some have suggested he thought he was being used in a sting operation to lure in terrorist operatives, who became aware of a trap, and then failed to appear, but he then continued with his portion of the plan, while other portions were ongoing. Something like this might very nicely explain why so many weapons were there and Not used by a meticulously planned operation. A Fast and Furious II, except the real terrorism is being planned as false flags by covert manipulators.

Things might be as simple as a very irrational person, who has made millions of dollars based upon casino gambling, had a General Jack T Ripper notion of hauling automatic weapons into a casino suite and sniping at crowds with automatic weapons.

I tend to think fools are easily parted with their money and he had made too much money to be so foolish, especially in Las Vegas. Either some deep pocket funneled him the funds and Las Vegas was more than willing to part him with his money to absorb his behavior, or the public may want to divest of MGM stock.


140 posted on 10/07/2017 8:08:31 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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