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Microsoft Win 10 Update Just Screwed The Old Games Again
Wuli | 9/30/2017 | Wuli

Posted on 09/30/2017 7:49:41 AM PDT by Wuli

Allowed Windows 10 latest update/build to run on my PC last night. It ended shortly before I went to bed, and I shut down the PC.

The morning I could not execute my Win 7 games - Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, Freecell, Majong. All the "run as administrator" and "compatibility" and "compatibility troubleshooting stuff" didn't do a dam thing. NOTHING, not even reinstall of the games and then all the compatibility stuff again worked. Nada, zilch.,

I had expended considerable effort from XP to Win 7 and then to Win getting versions of these games that would run, after each Windows version transitions.

Each time I had to jump through some hoops to get them working again, but once they did in Win 10, I had passed through previous Win 10 regular updates (not the same as a new build) and kept them working.

This time I had to roll back the whole Win 10 update that installed last night.

Legally I know Microsoft is not required to keep these older style games running under new Windows versions.

Regardless, I sure wish the threat of a class action lawsuit convinced them to quit screwing it up, as each time some geeks can be found that show how to do some tricks (that Microsoft knows about) to get the games running again. So, what they have been doing, from XP to Win 7, from Win 7 to Win 8, from Win 8 to Win 10 and in Win 10 updates, that screw up the games, has been unnecessary and preventable, if they - Microsoft - cared to put some attention to it.

Just makes me blood-pressure-up-mad each time.


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KEYWORDS: games; whiner; windows; windows10
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To: wally_bert

Want!!


21 posted on 09/30/2017 8:32:38 AM PDT by colinhester
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To: dglang

Yep. Software as a Service. Add in Cloud, so even your data isn’t yours anymore, and you’ll keep paying fees for the software and the storage until you are ready lose access to all of your data.

Really looping back to big iron, except instead of an IBM mainframe, racks of blade servers owned by a handful of mega companies willing to carry out the directives of the New World Order.


22 posted on 09/30/2017 8:34:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: colinhester

Me too.

There doesn’t seem to be a mailing list so I signed up in the forum so hopefully I’ll get a reminder about it from time to time.


23 posted on 09/30/2017 8:34:53 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: plsvn

[[but I just can’t get it to load on this new machine. ]]

There’s got to be a way to do it- it might be that win 10 is screwing up the boot loader/grub- There is a free tool that will ‘correct’ boot problems - the fact that you can get to the grub menu and no further sounds like it’s simply not seeign the linux operating system

You can try Boot-Repair-Disk here: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Boot-Repair-Disk-99450.shtml

Or another trusted download site-

Also your grub may be corrupted- try reinstalling it

However, since you can get into grub menu- try follwoing option 2 on this site:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-ubuntu-linux-pc-wont-boot/


24 posted on 09/30/2017 8:35:03 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Wuli
Have you tried running them in a Linux virtual machine with WINE?
25 posted on 09/30/2017 8:37:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: sagar

“Plays shitty games., “Uses shitty operating system.
, “Complains about shitty experience.”

Yes, the games are “simple”. Agreed. But they are just brain stimulating enough as I sit with my first cup of coffee & I don’t allow myself to play anyone of them more than once. So no, I do not sit and play them endlessly.

Yes, I am not geeky enough to go through the tech efforts to install other PC operating systems. I don’t want to invest my time that way.

So, yes, that occasionally leaves some “shitty” experiences with Microsoft. That’s my bad, but I live with it.

My central complaint is that the “shitty” problem is created unnecessarily by Microsoft. Some tech gurus always have/know or make a “fix”, which means Microsoft could prevent it. They just don’t give a dam.


26 posted on 09/30/2017 8:37:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: sagar

What a waste of time and effort playing games.


27 posted on 09/30/2017 8:39:49 AM PDT by topspinr
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To: georgiarat

Usually such holes I have experienced in any games (long ago) did not prevent Norton for seeing a resulting “illegal” intrusion and Norton stopped it.

I have multiple security apps watching my PC.


28 posted on 09/30/2017 8:40:28 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: TomGuy
The killer from XP to win7 is that games sold as microsoft games, such as the battletech series, wont run on win7.
That's right, they didn't even support their own games.
29 posted on 09/30/2017 8:40:46 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Wuli

The fact is, they WANT you to have to go out and spend more money on games.

I despise Windiws 10. It won’t play Empire Earth. IMO, EE is the best computer game ever made.


30 posted on 09/30/2017 8:42:24 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Wuli

There is reason I still use XP.


31 posted on 09/30/2017 8:42:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Wuli

You have probably seen this, but if not...

https://www.howtogeek.com/170870/5-ways-to-run-linux-software-on-windows/


32 posted on 09/30/2017 8:42:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: PAR35
Have you tried some of the other flavors of Linux?

Sorry, no I haven't. I'm not very geeky and turned enough blue holding my breath when I took the Mint plunge some months back. Since it's the most popular Linux flavor, I guessed I'd have the best luck with it. I've used Unix/Linux at work since the 90s (using OpenSuse now at work, Sun UNIX before that), but only as a user, not as anyone involved in IT.

I really suspect it's a hardware driver problem since this new machine has a fairly current nvidia video card in it, and the stock drivers in the Linux .iso files are probably many, many, months behind the times from what I gather from the forums I read.

The trick as I understand it is to reset your machine to an older driver configuration somehow, get Linux to load, then load a more current kernel that has a better chance to support your hardware and current drivers. I just don't know how to do that.

This laptop I'm using now was a Win 10 machine with UEFI BIOS, but it was a refurbished DELL Latitude machine with presumably older hardware. I got Mint to dual boot with Win 10 with it with no trouble. This new desktop machine however has got me stymied.

Hate to repeat myself, but I love Linux Mint and the whole philosophy of open source software. And there's no worrying about Windows 10 and their "Windows Experience" they ram down your throat spying on every move you make on the internet. And Win 10 Cortana? Who needs/wants it? I don't.
33 posted on 09/30/2017 8:45:39 AM PDT by plsvn
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To: Wuli

Wonder (update) if that is why when I try and open an excel document it trys to open in the new excel 365 (wants me to buy) even though it was created on excel office 2007? Started happening a few days ago?


34 posted on 09/30/2017 8:46:21 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem wiath socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No. I did enough techie geeky stuff in my IT career. But now I don’t like spending my time doing it. Yes, it leaves with things “as delivered” instead of me “tweeking” things to my exact liking - most of the time, not always (as I do always uninstall Win 10’s Cortana and Onedrive apps). It’s a “I don’t want or like spending the techie time” anymore. Can do, but won’t do it UNLESS and ONLY WHEN some single issue crops up and I have to get it “fixed”.

I could do Linux or others (some of the systems under my charge as an IT director in the past did run Linux and other systems) - but I just don’t want to spend the time acquiring the knowledge and familiarity to do it. Not lazy, just don’t want to invest time any day in it.


35 posted on 09/30/2017 8:48:51 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bookmarked in my bookmarks/IT_stuff folder - for future reference. Thanks.


36 posted on 09/30/2017 8:51:39 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

The Windows 10 Creators Update screwed up my printer (wasn’t showing up) and my Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard are lagging and mouse has to be clicked two or three times. When I called Microsoft, they tried to blame the 3rd Party Drivers as not being compatible with the new update. I called Logitech and was told they don’t have specific drivers to be affected.

Microsoft doesn’t give a damn what they do to our computers and is inept in my opinion.


37 posted on 09/30/2017 8:53:26 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: PAR35

.....”As for Firefox - it’s like the guys running it are trying their best to kill it”.....

Opera and Firefox are the only ones I can find usable on Vista....lots of tweeking otherwise....but you’re right...does look like they’re commiting suicide...harder and harder to use.


38 posted on 09/30/2017 8:55:14 AM PDT by caww (freeen)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

MS wants you to use games it runs on your browser, which opens to the Internet, which makes you Internet connected (whether the game is playing others “live” or not) and being Internet connected MS is tracking you just as Google is. THAT’s why they do it, and that’s why they do things like the “cloud”. It is not your convenience that interests them, it’s your trackability and access (in the cloud) to your stuff that they seek to gain awareness of - awareness for THEIR purposes.


39 posted on 09/30/2017 8:56:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: PAR35

I also have an older version of Seamonkey. I tried to upgrade it a couple of weeks ago, and it would not upgrade. I have had similar problems with other older FF-based browsers.

I have also run into similar problems with the Chrome-based, such as Iron and Slimbrowser.

It looks like any future upgrades for Win7 browsers are coming to an end. I have also noticed my FF-ESR version is getting very sluggish. I noticed similar sluggishness with XP before I went to Win7.

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40 posted on 09/30/2017 8:58:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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