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Why Microsoft will drive serious Linux innovation (MS is doing Linux kernel development)
InfoWorld ^ | Sep 11, 2017 | Matt Asay

Posted on 09/17/2017 5:04:32 PM PDT by dayglored

Microsoft, while maintaining its commitment to Windows, has made the necessary steps to not merely run on Linux but to help shape the future of Linux

Is Microsoft “the only [company] doing serious innovating with Linux?” That’s Jessie Frazelle’s contention. Frazelle, who rose to prominence in the developer community with Docker and later Google Cloud, made the bold claim to justify her departure to Microsoft. On its face it seems silly, an over-exuberant claim to justify a career move.

And yet it does suggest a very possible future where Microsoft doesn’t merely accept a peaceful coexistence with Linux, but instead enthusiastically embraces it as a key to its future.

No, I’m not talking about making things like SQL Server run on Linux. That’s table stakes for serving the polyglot reality of enterprise computing. Rather, Microsoft must make a real commitment to Linux, one that has it as an active, visible contributor thereto.

Fortunately, there are signs that this is starting to happen...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: fake; fakenews; kernel; linux; microsoft; windowspinglist
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To: dayglored

I am trying to use Linux Mint,
but I also need support for a landline modem.

any suggestions on how to get Linux
working with a modem?


21 posted on 09/17/2017 7:29:12 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: Pontiac

[[What Microsoft is up to I believe is, that they want to have a foot hold in Linux because too many companies and government orgs are going to Linux because they can not afford the MS licenses for all of their work stations.]]

And then, after they suck these companies in (via ‘cross compatibility), then they turn it into a ‘pay to play’ system-


22 posted on 09/17/2017 8:21:37 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: AZLiberty
I write spreadsheets in MS Excel for my job.

Every couple years the company updates to a newer version of MS OFFICE and I have to make changes to my spreadsheets because the new version does something weird to my spreadsheet.

Every time they announce that a MS update is going to be pushed I get nervous.

Other people use my spreadsheets on backshifts so I figure I might be getting a call in the middle of the night.

23 posted on 09/17/2017 8:23:29 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: AZLiberty

[[but it then refused to Quit.]]

There is a desktop shortcut you can create to force it to quit- the following are instructions from somewhere- can’t remember where i got them- but it works-

-——————————————Close Skype Completely Version 1————————————

A. Right-click on any blank portion on your desktop, then select New >> New Shortcut

B. In the Location, go to browse, then locate “C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe” - click ok,
then put a space at end and then /shutdown so it will look like “C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe” /shutdown (make sure quotes ARE in there)

C. Enter Skype Shutdown as the name of the Shortcut, click Finish.

D. You can simply click that shortcut whenever you want to quit Skype (right-click on the shortcut icon then select Properties), or even assign a hotkey. For example, you can set Control + Alt + 1 as hotkey to easily quit Skype.


24 posted on 09/17/2017 8:25:16 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
I seriously doubt that will come anywhere close to working on his MacBook Pro .

Macs do not have "C" drives.

Macs do not have .exe files.

And a whole bunch of other things...

25 posted on 09/17/2017 8:37:43 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Pontiac

Try using a date prior to 1900 in an Excel spreadsheet.


26 posted on 09/17/2017 9:00:35 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Do you need to use the date in a formula?


27 posted on 09/17/2017 9:08:22 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: CurlyDave

ah ok- missed that he was using mac- good catch


28 posted on 09/17/2017 9:12:34 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: CurlyDave

i really spaced it on that one lol- All i saw was that he tried to kill skype- and couldn’t- for soem reason my brain skipped the mac part


29 posted on 09/17/2017 9:14:08 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Pontiac

Just try typing “1887” and make the format of that cell Date. You’ll get an error.


30 posted on 09/17/2017 9:32:47 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Bob434
I love seeing Apple bigger and more profitable than Microsoft.

I suffered for many years when MS released a polluted version of Java that compiled code that would only run on Windows. Daily frustration for Mac users when most of the internet had pieces that just didn't work right. Or didn't work at all.

After that I distrust anything MS does and would love to see them shrink to being just a bit player.

As I understand it, even IBM is now allowing workers to choose Mac vs. PC and discovering what we have known all along -- total cost of ownership is less with Macs.

31 posted on 09/17/2017 9:35:16 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: dayglored

it’s a good thing. Microsoft has changed under Satya Nadella


32 posted on 09/17/2017 9:59:20 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: dayglored

They’ll incorporate Edge directly within the kernel guaranteeing that every Linux system can be hacked at its very core.


33 posted on 09/17/2017 10:04:38 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I have Office 2016.

They may have fixed that glitch. It doesn’t do anything.


34 posted on 09/17/2017 11:02:33 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Pontiac

And the cell is formatted as DATE and not Text?


35 posted on 09/18/2017 5:38:08 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: dayglored

It’s a good thing.

Linux VMs are very much a part of the Azure cloud. Microsoft is even going to open up a certification track for Linux administrators.

Stay tuned! There’s much to follow. Ignite is next week, and Satya’s going to present on this in the Keynote. I am going to this.


36 posted on 09/18/2017 5:49:17 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: dayglored

Oh Geesh, now I read the response to your question/post.

Not you, but this is why I quit your ping list.

Almost every reply is a BASH (get it?) of Microsoft.

It gets old. Sure, they suck. It’s Microsoft, right? And Bill Gates left a decade ago.

But when they finally get some good leadership (Satya), no one notices or cares.

Note to people posting: Microsoft is NOT an end user company like Apple. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to oranges, sort to speak.

I love Apple devices. Great stuff! However, IT isn’t just about sitting at home using your iPad or finding a new app for the iPhone. IT is about using systems and devices to make the business more efficient and thus more profitable—as opposed to having to shut down.

Because of the rapid growth in cloud services, and now the fuller, more robust integration of cloud with on-premises servers, this push by Microsoft just makes sense. Those servers run ether Windows Server or Linux. For others (more and more) BOTH.

BTW, to people who use MACs and then run a Windows virtual machine, well, Microsoft loves you for it. You still have to have a Microsoft license to do so. They make as much money, if not more, from those licenses than a big OEM like Dell or HP.


37 posted on 09/18/2017 6:02:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: dayglored

I would guess this is being driven by the fact no cloud based provider runs anything on Microsoft. The “Microsoft tax” (license fees) breaks the business model and would render any attempt to do so unprofitable and/or uncompetitive.


38 posted on 09/18/2017 6:19:47 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Paladin2

Will all apps and Easter Eggs end up in the kernal?

I'm sure they'll attempt to insert a flight simulator into the kernel as an easter egg.

39 posted on 09/18/2017 7:36:44 AM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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To: dayglored
That's right kids, I do Linux now...


40 posted on 09/18/2017 7:38:36 AM PDT by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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