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Carbon dating reveals earliest origins of zero symbol
BBC News ^ | 9/14/2017 | BBC

Posted on 09/14/2017 1:28:41 PM PDT by Republic_Venom

Carbon dating shows an ancient Indian manuscript has the earliest recorded origin of the zero symbol. The Bakhshali manuscript is now believed to date from the 3rd or 4th Century, making it hundreds of years older than previously thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History
KEYWORDS: india; math; mathematics; zero
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In a temple in Gwalior, India you can find the oldest known representation of the circular symbol for nothing ("shunya") or zero.
1 posted on 09/14/2017 1:28:42 PM PDT by Republic_Venom
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2 posted on 09/14/2017 1:29:30 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Republic_Venom

Carbon dating must be Islamophobic.


3 posted on 09/14/2017 1:32:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Republic_Venom

Means absolutely nothing to me.


4 posted on 09/14/2017 1:33:06 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If we're going to look at nature to justify our actions, then I say let's start flinging poop around)
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To: Republic_Venom

Americans had to put up with a Big, Fat, ZERO for eight l-o-n-g years!

However, if FELT like hundreds of years longer...


5 posted on 09/14/2017 1:33:13 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

*SNORT* :)


6 posted on 09/14/2017 1:33:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Republic_Venom

BC or AD?


7 posted on 09/14/2017 1:34:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: BenLurkin

I thought the Arabs invented zero.

I know that because Zero told us so.


8 posted on 09/14/2017 1:34:20 PM PDT by Fido969 (IN!)
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To: Republic_Venom

So, another muzzie lie exposed.

Their zero amounted to.....

Nothing.


9 posted on 09/14/2017 1:38:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Republic_Venom

The clock on my wall is in Roman Numerals...alas...no zero.


10 posted on 09/14/2017 1:42:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Republic_Venom
3rd or 4th Century

So no Muzzies?

ML/NJ

11 posted on 09/14/2017 1:43:48 PM PDT by ml/nj
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The numerals we refer to today as ‘Arabic Numerals’ are actually Hindu.

The Arab merchants saw the system in use in India and started using it themselves. They then transferred that system to the European marketplace around the Mediterranean and the Europeans saw the system and started using it as well, thinking the Arabs had invented it................


12 posted on 09/14/2017 1:46:21 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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The so-called Arabic numerals we use today are actually Hindu in origin...................


13 posted on 09/14/2017 1:47:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Verginius Rufus

AD...................


14 posted on 09/14/2017 1:47:54 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Fiddlstix

While many ancient number systems did not employ the symbol “o”, many did employ letter/numeric symbols, grammar symbols & or place markers to designate what we would now designate as “0” in writing numbers.

While the report may represent the oldest written “zero” in a numbers sense, I am not sure it represents the oldest use of zero, the concept or its placeholder in number systems. The symbol “o” and the concept are separate.

That altogether has a whole separate history from the philosophical dialogues about “zero”, and symbols for it meaning as “nothing”.


15 posted on 09/14/2017 1:48:08 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Republic_Venom

So...these guys surely realize there was math before the 3rd or 4th century, right?

And while the zero may not have looked like “0”, it was still there.


16 posted on 09/14/2017 1:49:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Republic_Venom

pointless. 1 - 1 = nothing. which logically they would draw a straight line. Who cares how they represented zero.


17 posted on 09/14/2017 1:53:12 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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“By 1770 BC, the Egyptians had a symbol for zero in accounting texts. The symbol nfr, meaning beautiful, was also used to indicate the base level in drawings of tombs and pyramids and distances were measured relative to the base line as being above or below this line.[12]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0


18 posted on 09/14/2017 1:56:17 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Fido969

>I thought the Arabs invented zero.

Arabs invented absolutely nothing besides the slave army and later getting conquered by your own slave armies.


19 posted on 09/14/2017 2:03:39 PM PDT by JohnyBoy (We should forgive communists, but not before they are hanged.)
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To: Republic_Venom

Mohammed was born April 22, 571 AD, the 6th century.

The Bakhshali manuscript is now believed to date from the 3rd or 4th Century. So the dot meaning zero existed before Islam. In Arabic today, the dot means zero.

The unanswered question is if the m*slims got the zero dot from the people who created this manuscript, or if they invented it separately.

Regardless, m*slims can no longer claim to be the inventors of zero.


20 posted on 09/14/2017 2:04:44 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech: a fond memory of something that went away 30 years ago.)
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