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1 posted on 09/10/2017 9:46:27 AM PDT by Signalman
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Leverage to get the wall funded and built.


2 posted on 09/10/2017 9:48:25 AM PDT by stylin19a (Lynch & Clinton - Snakes on a Plane)
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Hopefully they get deported so that wages go up.


3 posted on 09/10/2017 9:50:31 AM PDT by BrokenMachine
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So signing amnesty for up to 2 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS is playing 4-D chess?

OK.....got it.


4 posted on 09/10/2017 9:54:16 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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If the illegal alien dacacas get deported along with their illegal alien parents, siblings aunts uncles cousins grandparents, then its marvie...


5 posted on 09/10/2017 9:55:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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I would rather have him repeal DACA and its done. then shut the government down over the wall funding.

ButWe’ll see how this plays out.

If we end up with DACA sidgned into law that will a be loss

If we end up with no wall funding, that will be a loss.

the debt ceiling increase is already a loss.


6 posted on 09/10/2017 9:55:31 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The republican party controls all three branches of government yet the left gets everything it wants)
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Gee, Dick; it would be nice if Dreamers could also prove that they never committed identity theft to get on an American payroll, never took a job away from an American citizen in order to get on an American payroll, and never registered to vote, or voted under a different name.


7 posted on 09/10/2017 9:59:56 AM PDT by Bernard (If we could tax Stupid, Congress could balance the budget)
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Dick morris likes political strategy, fair enough, but I prefer what gets things done for America’s best interests.

If this works then great job. We’ll have to see though. I m quite pessimistic about it right now.

I think DACA will pass and get signed and the wall will never be funded, but as I said, we will see.


9 posted on 09/10/2017 10:04:02 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The republican party controls all three branches of government yet the left gets everything it wants)
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Had the GOP controlled Congress jumped right in on implementing President Trump’s Agenda, we wouldn’t even be discussing this.

Obama managed to takeover a sixth of the U.S. Economy right out of the box with Obamacare and McConnell whines about President Trumps expectations which pale in comparison.

Build a Wall, lower Tax Rates, pass a real Budget and get the Government out of Healthcare (as much as possible).

There you go Mitch. You have 14 Months to get er done.


10 posted on 09/10/2017 10:05:25 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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Dreamers will have to show that they have no criminal record, have not been on welfare, and have learned English to be able to stay.

IOW, to get amnesty.

I'd rather he declare the temporary DACA ended and deport them. But maybe this is smart politics --amnestize 200k of them and, in return, get Dems to work with him on taxes and health care. EXCEPT the Dems have rolled the Republicans so many times in deals like this that they are completely untrustworthy. This could be yet another bone-head naive move.

11 posted on 09/10/2017 10:07:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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This was written before Trump’s “deal” with Schumer/Pelosi.


12 posted on 09/10/2017 10:16:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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He should use the same strategy with Obamacare.

Commit to using all executive influence, power and actions as lawfully allowed under the Constitution - to repeal Obamacare - at the same time assist companies (using the same executive powers as appropriate) in offering “scaled back” coverage options replacement insurance coverage.

Starting in 6 months.

Appeal to Congress to repeal, replace or whatever else they want to do to fix Obamacare so that it’s not so expensive and burdensome.

Then step away and let them own it.


14 posted on 09/10/2017 10:34:16 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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Amnesty is brilliant, who knew?


15 posted on 09/10/2017 10:37:22 AM PDT by Angels27
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Instead, the entire Senate — all one hundred members — will have to work together with stellar bi-partisanship to craft a solution.

No, they won't. This isn't like a debt ceiling or emergency disaster relief funding in the aftermath of a major hurricane. There is no need for a legislative "solution" to a problem that has been caused by a lack of enforcement of laws that are already on the books. If Congress takes no action, the laws simply stay there unchanged -- and can be enforced (or not) at the discretion of the U.S. Justice Dept.

More importantly, it would probably be a political disaster -- and a moral outrage -- for Congress to enact any legislation to deal with these so-called "dreamers" anytime soon. There are tens of millions of U.S. citizens who have been dealing with an abomination known as Obamacare for years. Any member of Congress who feels a need to take up a DACA bill without first repealing ObamaCare should instead simply blow his brains out on the floor of the House or Senate.

16 posted on 09/10/2017 10:41:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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“If the Democrats don’t work constructively with the GOP to produce a real piece of legislation, the deadline of an expiring DACA program will force them into line.”

Except that Trump has said he will reconsider his DACA decision if congress does nothing. In saying that he pretty much lost his leverage.


18 posted on 09/10/2017 10:52:44 AM PDT by aquila48
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President Donald Trump was simply taken into the basement of the WH and shown the figurative footage of JFK, RFK and MLK being blown away..... something similar to “YOU VIL OBEY” or else. He is flip flopping like a fish out of water. He WILL be the man who gives amnesty to the 50 million, just like Nixon (went to China) to give away our manufacturing base, taking a stand against everything he ever stood for.


19 posted on 09/10/2017 11:09:14 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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I personally question Morris and every other sympathizer to DACA “kids”. They are not kids. They are mostly adults who have essectialy learned what they lived, have picked up where they parent’s have put them and increased demands for more and more goodies they have not earned.

When do they have to act like people our country should want as potential responsible legal American residents?


21 posted on 09/10/2017 11:37:38 AM PDT by amihow
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So far, President Trump has not disappointed me. And I know he's doing the right thing because so many LibTards that I know are in a LATHER over this issue...as they were for all of the other issues that he has dealt with so far.


22 posted on 09/10/2017 12:17:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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I can see this idea of ‘brilliant strategy’ and a chance for a ‘win’ being pushed (including Limbaugh et al). It is what the donors and establishment want. They (and their servants) will go full on trying to convince us this is a good deal. It is not a deal, and certainly not a good one.

Any amnesty is a loss, and that is what a DACA ‘fix’ would be.

The solution was simple: end DACA, replace it with nothing. For the illegals covered: as their deferred action period ended they became subject to deportation. No legislation was needed; no ‘deal’ was needed.

Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Stroke of the pen, no longer law of the land. That’s it. No ‘clever’ deals needed. No 4D chess needed. Just end it.

These are illegal aliens, the ‘dreamer’ designation is a lie as that act thankfully never passed. The key part of DACA is the ‘D’ for deferred. Action was deferred but that deferral has ended (deferred does not mean canceled).

Any deal will likely contain immediate amnesty and immigration surge with a promise of wall funding, e-Verify, and other enforcement issues later. We all know how that has worked out in the past.

Any deal on amnesty (or anything other than massive immigration reduction) must only be considered after a wall is complete, e-Verify implemented, and birthright citizenship ended, and all have been completed or implemented for at least one year. If any one is ended or struck down by courts then the associated amnesty/surge ends too.

The majority of the Republicans (let alone Democrats) do not want any slow down in the ongoing immivasion and demographic swamping of heritage America. Any near-term deal is a loss.


23 posted on 09/10/2017 12:46:58 PM PDT by evilC
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It’s brilliant—because it is bringing us back to the Gang of Eight massive amnesty deal! Yippee!


24 posted on 09/10/2017 12:49:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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The limbo DACAers are in is due to a president exceeding his Constitutional Authority.


26 posted on 09/10/2017 1:49:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone (He's racist,homophobic,misogynist and has a concealed carry permit- God how I adore that man!)
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