Posted on 09/04/2017 1:28:45 PM PDT by Hostage
'War Hides Our Crimes'
For those that have known my views over the last two decades on FR, you know then that I am not a conspiracy enthusiast, seldom comment on assembling facts under some weird far-fetched theory. But that was before I saw CNN go full fake with others following suit, before learning that Jeff Bezos and his Washington Post are tools of the CIA, before confirming that the NY Times is a mouthpiece for holdovers of the Clinton regime and Hillary's State Dept, etc. It is still a numbing experience to realize the blatant insanity of the Left now out in full view for everyone to see yet they persist as if their hypocrisy and deception did not exist or did not matter. The Left's motives were always known but in years past it was always kept mostly out of sight but not so now. Now it is front and center. The Left doesn't even bother to hide it anymore. Truth does not matter to these people.
So dare to ask a crazy conspiracy question, dare to question authority but keep it sane, keep it plausible. By asking such questions, we may feel uncomfortable but we demonstrate we are not fools. We can agree with our President's statements, plans, and policies regarding North Korea, we can remain with him, but we need not be thought of as sheep to be herded by Deep State media. We can and should question everything they say.
The central question of relevance is then:
WHAT DOES NORTH KOREA HAVE TO GAIN BY LAUNCHING AN ICBM WITH AN H2 BOMB?
Some answers though irrational are offered below.
However first, we have observed facts from Deep State actors. For example, Petraeus was in NYC in February this year at a poorly attended talk with four other panelists and focused solely on North Korea and what a threat they are because for example, they built a bridge in record time (???), and because of these things it was necessary to bomb them. There is video of this talk and it is bizarre, to say the least. My take on Petraeus after hearing this talk was I wouldn't trust Petraeus further than I could throw him. I think he's an utterly compromised tool.
Many people of repute silently believe Petraeus has been tasked to lead the 'Deep State' in a process of slow soft coup against our President. Maybe, maybe not. The known facts do not implicate him and they at the same time don't clear him. Because he is untrustworthy in my view, I remain suspicious of him. That suspicion is his doing, not mine. He has done NOTHING to build trust with the American people. In fact, he has done the opposite. The same investigators of repute believe Petraeus is tasked to preserve the corruption, the pay-to-play, the illicit arms and drug trade, CIA rogue operators, the swift march towards world government and globalism, and to execute all the sordid 'games' played to preserve the Elite's corrupt power structure. I don't have enough information to dismiss such suspicions but at the same time, I can't be comfortable knowing it's all just a load of conspiracy huey.
Given the facts we now know about Petraeus, the above is not as far-fetched as we would think.
Next, note that investigators are closing in on the Clinton Foundation, the Awan Muslim Brotherhood Spy Ring, Huma Abedin as a Saudi Spy, and other 'Swamp' related persons and events, THEN SUDDENLY North Korea is reported to have detonated an H2 Bomb causing an earthquake of 6+.
Who reported this? Who verified it? Should we be asking these types of questions?
Say the H2 bomb report is true. Why is it in NK's interest to do such a thing?
Here's my take:
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NK is a Hell on Earth according to hundreds of independently reported testimonies of people that have escaped it. The workers are forced to work hours so long (~2 days off per month) and without complaint that they develop terrible pains and they are not allowed to breathe one word of complaint. They also suffer terrible hunger. To deal with their pain and keep their energy up, they take methamphetamine handed out by government dispensaries. It is estimated conservatively that 30% to 50% of the NK population is addicted to meth.
NK methamphetamine is reported to be of high quality, purity, and potency. It is said to have a bluish tint and is distinctively known as 'Blue Ice'. It costs only $10/lb to manufacture and is valued at $30k/lb. The NK government reportedly takes in $100B+/year from meth export as a means of acquiring badly needed revenue.
Pretty girls and fair looking young boys are said to be sold into sex trafficking. Those that are not attractive are sold into indentured servitude aka slavery. Devastating poverty and lack of revenue have created a vertical structure of official hands out for payment with a diabolical ethos that has fallen into a moral abyss into the insanity of Hell.
Why in the backdrop of all this Hell on Earth would the psychopath Kim Jong-Un execute at breakneck speed a program to acquire a hydrogen bomb and delivery system? And more important is the question who in the hell is helping this crazy son-of-a-bitch?
Here's my view: The victims of North Korea are human, and as humans, they rely on any hope they can attach to. The only hope they can think of is if some 'force in the world' will see their plight and rescue them. Thus, Kim Jong-Un's answer to his own people removes all hope because in directing the acquisition of such terrible weapons, his message is NO ONE DARE ATTACK HIS REGIME. Game over for the people of North Korea. ****************************************************************
So then, would this conclusion if valid acquit David Petraeus and render him one of the 'good guys'? HELL NO!
David Petraeus, and by his name is meant the entire seditious, traitorous, globalist opposition to America's quest to revive its prominence and dignity (MAGA), David Petraeus has been ordered to find a distraction, any distraction that would slow the placing of a noose around Deep STate actors and networks. Just as Mueller was brought in the back door to slow the Trump Administration's progress towards closing in on the seditious cabal, programmed to find any pretext for charging the President or his trusted circle with obstruction of justice, David Petraeus was tasked to find a 'hot point' anywhere on the globe for which to create chaos and distraction. That is my inference. And the bastard found such a hot point in North Korea. Congratulations David. You've done your damned despicable job.
Now, who has helped North Korea gain this ability? I don't know. Pakistan is certainly a factor. But the Obama years certainly do not allow one to think that North Korea's efforts were slowed. Whoever helped Kim Jong-Un to do this still does not absolve Petraeus from reaping the wrath of Americans who are awakening.
Let me put it to you this way David, should President Trump in the next moment launch an attack on North Korea, Americans including yours truly will be behind him 100%+ and never abandon him. But don't think for a second that we've forgotten about you and those you are protecting.
No matter what happens David, we are coming after you. WE ARE STILL GOING TO COME AFTER YOU AND YOUR NETWORK!
Not sure Kim Jong-Um is on meth but reports are that a large part of the working population is because they are in pain and suffer from hunger, and the NK government provides them with the meth.
> “ The ability to do both will prevent the outside world from overthrowing their regime.”
Yes, that’s it. They will never attack with such weapons because they would be annihilated.
The question remains who would initiate an overthrow?
An answer offered is it would more likely come from an internal threat.
He’s too chubby for meth, but still might be hearing voices. Absolute power like he has has a tendency to make tyrants unhinged. We can’t assume that our idea of consequences are the same as his.
Useless bit of blogdom....
Is it a false flag even Trump doesn’t know about?
PING
The central question of relevance is then:
WHAT DOES NORTH KOREA HAVE TO GAIN BY LAUNCHING AN ICBM WITH AN H2 BOMB?
Some answers though irrational are offered below.
However first, we have observed facts from Deep State actors.
For example, Petraeus was in NYC in February this year at a poorly attended talk with four other panelists and focused solely on North Korea and what a threat they are because for example, they built a bridge in record time (???), and because of these things it was necessary to bomb them. There is video of this talk and it is bizarre, to say the least. My take on Petraeus after hearing this talk was I wouldn't trust Petraeus further than I could throw him. I think he's an utterly compromised tool.
Many people of repute silently believe Petraeus has been tasked to lead the 'Deep State' in a process of slow soft coup against our President. - Maybe, maybe not. - The known facts do not implicate him and they at the same time don't clear him.
Because he is untrustworthy in my view, I remain suspicious of him. That suspicion is his doing, not mine. He has done NOTHING to build trust with the American people. In fact, he has done the opposite.
The same investigators of repute believe Petraeus is tasked to preserve the corruption, the pay-to-play, the illicit arms and drug trade, CIA rogue operators, the swift march towards world government and globalism, and to execute all the sordid 'games' played to preserve the Elite's corrupt power structure. I don't have enough information to dismiss such suspicions but at the same time, I can't be comfortable knowing it's all just a load of conspiracy huey.
Given the facts we now know about Petraeus, the above is not as far-fetched as we would think.
Next, note that investigators are closing in on the Clinton Foundation, the Awan Muslim Brotherhood Spy Ring, Huma Abedin as a Saudi Spy, and other 'Swamp' related persons and events, THEN SUDDENLY North Korea is reported to have detonated an H2 Bomb causing an earthquake of 6+.
Who reported this? Who verified it? Should we be asking these types of questions?
Say the H2 bomb report is true. Why is it in NK's interest to do such a thing?
Check out Article.
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I have a very (very) long history of posts. Instead of calling names right off the bat, maybe you should look at some.
But, hey, I’ll bite:
1. The author never answers his own (main) question.
2. In trying to answer the main question, he starts out with the statement: “Some answers though irrational are offered below. “. Don’t know where you are from, but where I come from that does not inspire confidence in the reader.
3. He goes on and on about how NKs are meth addicted and sold as sex slaves. Interesting if true, but (again) not relevant to the main question.
4. He has some weird grudge against Petraeus. Honestly, my opinion of Petraeus has gone down in the last few years, but not to the point where I think he would aid NK in any way.
So, in summary, I reiterate: it doesn’t make sense.
If that’s all you got to offer, then answer the central question of relevance repeated here just for you:
Jeeze........
"Why in the backdrop of all this Hell on Earth would the psychopath Kim Jong-Un execute at breakneck speed a program to acquire a hydrogen bomb and delivery system?"
To ask the question, as if it would make no sense, in the mind of North Korea's leaders to do what they seem to be doing, is to not understand just how radically different is the national and world view of things to the dictators in North Korea.
The conspiracy rests on the belief, in error in my view, that there is no way the dictators of North Korea are doing - arming themselves with nuclear arms, because it makes no sense TO US. Despite not just our intelligence services but others around the world agree they are in fact doing what is generally suspected they are doing.
Yes, here in the west, it can seem "illogical", but to mistake that as though it should NOT seem purely logical to the dictators of North Korea, is nothing more or less than not understanding them and the way THEY think.
And more important is the question who in the hell is helping this crazy son-of-a-bitch?"
Many intelligence sources and reports, from multiple countries have indicated that North Korea has advanced primarily on its own initiative, as far as actually working things out, but also with theft (illicit purchases which are done with third parties and appearing to go to destinations that are not North Korea, but are in fact destined for and arrive there) and outright direct purchase of some needed designs and engineering processes; in the areas of the nuclear material development, war head design and materials, targeting guidance engineering, missile design and missile/rocket motors, which it then refined to its own designs.
Candidates in the outright purchases have been Pakistan, Iran and lately with rocket engines possibly Ukraine &/or Iran again as well.
And, one thing the writer fails with entirely is any background (unless its in the video) for evidence for how he places Petraeus into all this. Does he assume we all supposed to just go read all his stuff somewhere else, that describes about Petraeus the role the writer gives him.
Sorry, no. For the claims about Petraeus alone, the writer fails to make his case. That would be enough, if also the writer wasn't failing in thinking the dictators in North Korea are assessing things the same way the writer would.
This question relies on the assumption that we would consider the answer rational. Some elements in Iran want to deliberately start a nuclear war because they believe it will cause the return of the "Mahdi". They have a very strong religious reason for wanting to kill millions of people, and of course their reason won't make any sense to us.
Kim Jong Un has been raised as a virtual "god child" since he was born, and he has been constantly told that he is the most awesomeist person who ever existed.
He may want to start a nuclear war because he believes the propaganda he has been fed.
You are looking for a sane reason why North Korea would behave this way. There might not actually be a sane reason behind it.
Thank you. This is more or less the same point I made in my last post. Psychopaths don't need reasons that make sense to the rest of us. This is why you have to be an idiot to let them get their hands on these sorts of weapons. (Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Jimmy Carter.)
What does not make sense is that retired General Petraeus would be deliberately looking for a “flash point” to start a war between the US and North Korea. And, I’m guessing that this is “his assignment” by either Obama or ‘the deep state’?
He’s a strange one, no doubt. But with all the CNN propaganda with backing of neoncons, my ears and eyes do not accept everything brought to them. In other words, CNN as an organ of neocons may be taking a strange duck and presenting it as a dragon.
I don’t like to question the reports of NK detonating an H2 Bomb, but how can any of us in this day of 24/7 CNN BS be certain such a detonation took place?
I admit I haven’t looked into it but from where did the report arise and where was it put into the news stream?
Should anyone be asking such questions? Is it unpatriotic to doubt news reports?
I admit I haven’t followed it closely the past week but I have not seen our President tweet anything specifically referring to NK’s H2 Bomb detonation. So unless someone can cobble together trustworthy reports about it, I think it’s fair game to question it.
I’ve confirmed the meth claims with many articles over the years, but there’s one big hole in this article: The doubt cast that there was a seismic event, 6.4, in North Korea — and that the event had the single spike of a nuclear weapon. Seismographs across the world recorded it.
Re-read the article and saw where the author states that Petraeus is following the orders of “the deep state.” Whomever that actually is, other than those who oppose President Trump...but then, that is probably the answer.
This is good information and is very consistent with developments. I give credit to your post.
The wider point is the Senate Armed Services Committee with McCain, Graham and its other members is graft-central for hundreds of major defense contractors and they want the committee to do their bidding for a profit motive.
Petraeus is one of their tools. He is making the behind the scene deals that ensure McCain controls the agenda.
McCain’s refusal to vote for Obamacare repeal was his way of telling Trump “You didn’t give me what I want so I’m not giving you what you want!”. And what he wants is war with NK because his graft network wants it.
Trump campaigned on fighting smarter and minimally. He continued criticizing the Iraq war as a total waste of thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars without one thing to show for it. He stated at least we should have taken the oil but nothing. Thousands of lives lost and damaged and trillions of dollars wasted.
So this is McCain and his neocons against the President. McCain’s people want the President under their thumb. They want an extended hot war on the Korean peninsula.
And if they get their hot war, then McCain can withhold funds for the Wall because the funds are needed for the Korean conflict, etc. In other words a massive diversion to neocon priorities away from MAGA priorities. (Neocon = globalism and wars without end for profit)
The neocons can shut down the President’s entire agenda with an outbreak of war in Korea.
Two wars, two enemies here: 1) NK dumbasses and 2) McCain neocon dumbasses.
That’s the point. Hence, my call out to Petraeus that we are on to them and they are not going to get away with this frickin crap.
I think it’s a real concern that is being amplified with false flag methods. In other words, McCain and his ilk are doing a happy dance and they are going to milk it for all its worth to the point of taking over and shutting down the Trump Agenda.
I think one of them has been pretty quiet for a while.....one in particular, LOL.
If she’s posted, I haven’t seen it, I mean.
Windflier may remember who I am talking about.
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