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Physicists Want to Rebuild Quantum Theory From Scratch
WIRED ^ | 09/02/17 | Philip Ball

Posted on 09/04/2017 8:13:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Scientists have been using quantum theory for almost a century now, but embarrassingly they still don’t know what it means. An informal poll taken at a 2011 conference on Quantum Physics and the Nature of Reality showed that there’s still no consensus on what quantum theory says about reality—the participants remained deeply divided about how the theory should be interpreted.

Some physicists just shrug and say we have to live with the fact that quantum mechanics is weird. So particles can be in two places at once, or communicate instantaneously over vast distances? Get over it. After all, the theory works fine. If you want to calculate what experiments will reveal about subatomic particles, atoms, molecules and light, then quantum mechanics succeeds brilliantly.

But some researchers want to dig deeper. They want to know why quantum mechanics has the form it does, and they are engaged in an ambitious program to find out. It is called quantum reconstruction, and it amounts to trying to rebuild the theory from scratch based on a few simple principles.

If these efforts succeed, it’s possible that all the apparent oddness and confusion of quantum mechanics will melt away, and we will finally grasp what the theory has been trying to tell us. “For me, the ultimate goal is to prove that quantum theory is the only theory where our imperfect experiences allow us to build an ideal picture of the world,” said Giulio Chiribella, a theoretical physicist at the University of Hong Kong.

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TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: physicists; quantumtheory; rebuild; want
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1 posted on 09/04/2017 8:13:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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2011 is quite dated for Physics.


2 posted on 09/04/2017 8:16:38 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Enlightened1

BLM says quantum mechanics is RAYCISS!


3 posted on 09/04/2017 8:18:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( "If fascism ever comes to America, it will be called liberalism." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Enlightened1

Sheldon Cooper knows.


4 posted on 09/04/2017 8:20:00 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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> But some researchers want to dig deeper. <

They are free to do that, as long as Quantum Theory hasn’t been declared to be Settled Science. It is forbidden to question Settled Science!


5 posted on 09/04/2017 8:25:05 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Enlightened1

“Oddness and confusion of quantum mechanics will melt away”

Oh, those quantum mechanics running around in their overalls waving socket wrenches and demanding to be paid in jello.


6 posted on 09/04/2017 8:27:23 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Enlightened1

“Scientists.....still don’t know what it means.”

It’s like everything is connected by strings and if you strum the string.....

Someone’s in the kitchen with Dinah
Someone’s in the kitchen I know o o o
Someone’s in the kitchen with Dinah
Strummin on the old banjo

Sure was a lot of fun to strum Dinah’s banjo.


7 posted on 09/04/2017 8:36:41 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Leaning Right

It is forbidden to question Settled Science!

There is no such thing as settled science according to the scientific method. The last rule of the scientific method is to reevaluate so it is never settled.


8 posted on 09/04/2017 8:39:25 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Enlightened1

It means you have no clue what you are looking at.


9 posted on 09/04/2017 8:41:40 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Enlightened1

Schrodinger’s cat is dead.


10 posted on 09/04/2017 8:51:28 AM PDT by captain_dave
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> There is no such thing as settled science according to the scientific method. <

That’s exactly right. If it’s science, it’s not settled.
And if it’s settled, it’s not science.

Consider man-made Global Warming. Does that exist? I don’t know. But it has been declared “settled science”. No more debate is allowed. That’s Dark Ages stuff. I find that VERY disturbing.


11 posted on 09/04/2017 8:52:53 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Enlightened1

quantum physics is the modern day equivalence of asking how many angels can dance on a pinhead. and makes as much sense.

I have spoken to quite a few physicists who tell me that you have to suspend disbelief in order to grasp it.


12 posted on 09/04/2017 8:53:30 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: captain_dave

Quantum Theory says his cat is dead, and alive.

That’s like taking both sides in an argument. Very confusing.

Quantum Theory is based on an unprovable assumption.


13 posted on 09/04/2017 8:56:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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14 posted on 09/04/2017 9:03:08 AM PDT by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: Enlightened1

Calling Sheldon Cooper.


15 posted on 09/04/2017 9:03:20 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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I found it amazing that this article didn’t mention pilot waves, or the very interesting explanations they offer for many quantum phenomena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmC0ygr08tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIyTZDHuarQ

The cool thing about pilot waves is they don’t involve randomness - they’re deterministic, yet exhibit statistical properties similar to QM. No more “playing dice with the universe” - it’s just that humans don’t have the technology to detect the pilot waves directly.

BTW, de Broglie hypothesized this exact mechanism early on, but the strictly probability based “Copenhagen interpretation” became the accepted theory instead. We’ll see if some clever physicists can come up with experiments that definitely show which is correct.


16 posted on 09/04/2017 9:05:03 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Except it works, makes predictions which match experiment and gives very accurate calculations that match experiment. The theory could be conceptually completely wrong but since it does what you ask a theory to do - make predictions & match experimental measurement. (Hear that Global Warmers!)

It’s hard to de-throne since for the most part since its spectacularly doing its job. However good proper scientific practice says you should keep trying! (Hard to get NSF grants for “contrary science”! I know I tried!)


17 posted on 09/04/2017 9:09:49 AM PDT by Reily
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Quantum Theory is based on an unprovable assumption.

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Quantum Theory is based on experimental results. Yet it is the most precise theory we have in all the sciences. The theory is bizarre because the experimental results are bizarre. The experiments came first, then the theory.


18 posted on 09/04/2017 9:11:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: captain_dave

Since when?


19 posted on 09/04/2017 9:18:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Don Corleone

He doesn’t know squat - a decent actor but his TV gf is actually a genius.


20 posted on 09/04/2017 9:23:42 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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