Posted on 08/08/2017 7:50:32 AM PDT by LouAvul
I'm in Oklahoma and we have casinos everywhere. It seems.
But a tribe has surreptitiously acquired a small piece of property in my particular town and built facilities for a restaurant. Now it's been revealed they intend to start a casino, and our councilmen say there's nothing they can do.
Even though gambling is illegal in my town, these people are protected by the federal government to open up one of their filthy, prefabricated, typically "native American" dumps? They say they are, and they say as long as they comply with the feds, they can do whatever they want.
I'm going to contact my Congresscritters. Is there any precedent for shutting down a gambling establishment?
I never shot and Indian and am tired of giving these people special consideration for what my ancestors might, or might not have, done.
Is this considered an acceptable way to gain support?
“I resent the stereotyping going on in this thread...”
Facts are not stereo types. What is the stereotype is you trying to claim these facts don’t happen. You’re trying to stereotype Indians.
There are no indian tribes left. They’re all mixed breeds such as yourself and my wife.
Conservative + unclear innocent statement = Intent to commit a criminal act (to any liberal prosecutor).
Perhaps we have not learned the lesson yet that the deck is already stacked against us. Probably not a good idea to deal aces to the opposition.
Initially I was not going to post. I left the thread and was minding my merry business - but the notion continued to gnaw - so I came back and posted as I did.
Sure, I suppose I could have said - “I know this is not your intent, but it might be wise to clarify the fact.”
But yes, the trail of tears. Technically, I believe this was the result of a disagreement among American Indian leaders about Andrew Jackson’s plan to relocate the Cherokee. Some said yes, some said no, Jackson said go to it. And figured it was up to the Indians to make it humane for each other. It was a fuster cluck that shouldn’t have been allowed to be a blight on America. But for that matter, neither should have chattel slavery, a gift that keeps on giving.
Move to Arkansas, no casinos, just one horse track and one dog track. :)
It was a typo. Nothing more.
How many Indians are actually employed in these ventures? I’ve always heard it was very few.
I think it's lousy deal for the rest of us too. They are putting them in everywhere it seems. In Connecticut, there are two massive Indian-owned casinos. I just don't have the greatest experience there. The Foxwoods casino especially. It's kind of drab and looks sort of like a giant shopping mall with slot machines. The only thing I like about going there is in the winter, you can literally walk for miles inside of the place. It's a good place to get some exercise when it's cold and snowy outside.
Over at the Mohegan Sun (about 8 miles away) is another massive casino and this one at least has better food options and has some of that "Las Vegas" vibe to it. But those slots are also very, very tight. And the food is quite expensive. You can get some good walking done there as well.
Nothing beats Las Vegas however. I could spend days there and never see the same thing twice. What I like to do is walk from casino to casino (almost entirely indoors) from MGM to the Palazzo on one side, cross over, and then walk from Treasure Island to Mandalay Bay on the otherside. I avoid the Circus Circus as it's quite run down and some questionable characters hang out there. I do occasionally take a trip to the north side (Fremont Street Experience) - it's a little low rent but a fun place to grab some oversized margaritas and people watch as people chow down on things like fried oreo cookies and play the coin slots (which dispenses actual coins as jackpots instead of the ticket system everybody else uses).
Las Vegas is fun. Indian-run casinos are a weak alternative. At least that's been my experience.
You kidding me? All they have to do is count the money as it rolls in. They hire people to do everything else.
In general I avoid casinos, they’re not at all common in my state, NC, being only on the reservation of the Eastern Cherokee up in the Smokies. Vegas gives me the creeps, it’s fake like Disney but mobbed up with very evident hookers and any substance you’d care to abuse. No thanks. Atlantic City was the same way but worse before it collapsed. These sort of satellite casinos I really can’t speak for, it sounds galling, these things should remain on the res in my opinion. Cherokee gambling casinos to me is Harrah’s, not all that bad, they have sort of frequent gambler clubs, seems as if their regulars get rewarded/subsidized just enough to keep them coming back, and the one-armed bandits are honest enough to keep the complaints to a minimum. That’s all I know of it. I do have to say that I don’t quite get the attempts to portray the indians themselves as somehow dirty or trashy or what have you. I’ve got a fair amount of Eastern Cherokee in my ancestry, sure some of them were and are poor and ignorant. A middle class suburbanite aesthetic sense may be offended by their lack of landscaping or their collection of old cars, but as far as I know they’re decent folks by and large. So, watch it with that sort of thinking, a whole lot of us southerners have a bit of Cherokee, Creek or Choctaw in us, or legendarily do. You trash them you’re trashing some part of us as well.
Actually it's not just the "white man" that goes to these casinos but you get my point.
Because palefaces never build anything tacky.
If someone doesn’t like Indian owned casinos, don’t go in...
It has happened in Lost Wages.
And in Atlantic City.
And pretty much every place there is gambling.
IMHO if there is a problem with the machine the house should pay out with a smile and then go after their service people.
Not everyone agrees with me.
Yes, there are hookers and drugs available there, no doubt. But you can probably get them in any sizable town in the USA. Unless you go looking for that kind of action, it's fairly transparent. Other than the Mexicans trying to hand you a sex pamphlet at every street corner, of course! Like in NYC, you just avoid eye contact and they leave you alone.
It’s the whole glitzy Potemkin Village mirage populated with creepy-crawlie scammers, from prostitutes to drug dealers, that I don’t care for. Strikes me as corrupted Disney-fake. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve lived a life and delved into the seedier side so I’m no prude but I don’g go looking for it, at least not anymore. Heck, even Myrtle Beach bugs me for the same reason, it’s all the above, Vegas plopped down on the Atlantic starting to sprawl back into the swamps, sans casinos, legal ones at least.
Amazing
The proud courageous Red Man has found his true calling in gambling houses
***Move to Arkansas, no casinos, just one horse track and one dog track. :)***
Didn’t used to be! I remember when Hot Springs had illegal open casino gambling till the state shut them down.
They about 10-15 years ago a Cherokee group wanted to buy some land there, get it declared a “reservation” and open a casino. They were turned down.
Now some group wants to build casinos at Branson MO.
Casinos don’t bother me. It is fun watching the fools rush over there on Friday after cashing their pay checks to give it to the casinos as fast as they can.
Contrary to popular belief, the casinos will accept money with Andrew Jackson’s portrait on it.
The Oneida fought on the side of the Colonists here in central New York State, and after the war were granted land from the government, which of course they gradually lost parts of over the years. The large casino is stands on Oneida land. The smaller casino is outside of Syracuse, NY. I'm not sure if they originally owned the land, or bought the property, which had an empty strip mall on it. They remodeled the empty stores, and turned it into a casino. This casino is called Yellow Brick Road and has Wizard of Oz themes as Frank L. Baum was born in Chittenango, New York, which is where the strip mall they took over is located.
***The federal government has pretty much given the Indians free reign to open casinos on their appointed lands, regardless of local laws elsewhere.***
They should open an annex to the casinos in California, New York, Colorado that sell “a-s-s-s-ault” rifles to the public!
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