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But in interviews with more than 75 Republicans at every level of the party, elected officials, donors and strategists expressed widespread uncertainty about whether Mr. Trump would be on the ballot in 2020 and little doubt that others in the party are engaged in barely veiled contingency planning.

This is a HUGE mistake for the Republican Party if this happens.  The Trump voters are not going to vote for Sasse (who held a meet and greet in Iowa recently), Kasich (who intends to hold "policy forums" in Ohio and elsewhere around the country), etc.  The Trump voters will still support Trump in the primaries, and if the GOP screws with the rules and opens the primaries, we will never vote for Sasse, Kasich, etc. in a general election.  We will stay home.  This is a GIFT to the Democrats because it will destroy the Republican Party and ensure the Democrats get back in power.  If so, the Democrats using Republicans to take out a Republican and gain power without doing any heavy lifting is an ingenious strategy.

“They see weakness in this president,” said Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “Look, it’s not a nice business we’re in.”

It's not nice because of people like John McCain. John McCain doesn't care if the Republicans are in power.  John McCain cares if the establishment is in power.  By the way, his approval rating with Democrats is 74% vs 39% with Republicans.  The Republican Party members don't want John McCain types running their government.

In the wider world of conservative Trump opponents, William Kristol, editor at large of The Weekly Standard, said he had begun informal conversations about creating a “Committee Not to Renominate the President.”

“We need to take one shot at liberating the Republican Party from Trump, and conservatism from Trumpism,” Mr. Kristol said.

We most certainly do not.  Bill Kristol needs to face the fact that his brand of "conservatism" has failed.  He's no conservative.  He's a loser who preens on Twitter for attention by Tweeting anti-Trump rhetoric so he can get likes and Retweets from "The Resistance".  Those people are using Bill.  He is a means to their end to take down Trump.  If he got  his way and got an establishment candidate in place, all those people would turn on him in a heart beat.

Trump won the nomination with the most votes in GOP primary history.  Trump managed to do what Republicans hadn't done in years - crack the Rust Belt and get crossover votes from Democrats.  He won states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin that no one thought possible.  Instead of seizing this opportunity, the Republicans like Bill Kristol want to go back to the failed, establishment strategy that cost them two elections.

McCain LOST.

Romney LOST.

16 Establishment candidates LOST.

Trump draws massive crowds that fill arenas consistently.  Do they honestly think Kasich or Sasse could do something like that? 

Instead of embracing their victory and their President who helped bring some of them to victory on his coattails, the GOP continues to fight him.  Their solution, go back to the way it was.  They want open borders, free/bad trade deals, foreign wars and regime change, and amnesty.  Amnesty would likely lead to the end of the Republican Party as I would presume most people here illegally would tend to vote Democrat if given citizenship...even by a GOP President.  They don't care if they lose elections because the establishment is the same at the top.  As long as they have their special interest, lobbyist, and donor money rolling in and their power, they don't care who is President.  Trump is a threat to their carefully cultivated system.

The article goes on to talk about others who might run such as Cotton who has visited Iowa and is hosting a two day fundraiser that's $5,000 a person.  That would be a betrayal as he was a Trump supporter.

Then the article goes into a long discussion about Mike Pence who they say keeps a very full schedule and has built his own network of donors.  This part was interesting:

The vice president created his own political fund-raising committee, Great America Committee, shrugging off warnings from some high-profile Republicans that it would create speculation about his intentions. The group, set up with help from Jack Oliver, a former fund-raiser for George W. Bush, has overshadowed Mr. Trump’s own primary outside political group, America First Action, even raising more in disclosed donations

It doesn't surprise me the establishment would give more money to Mike Pence than to Trump and says this money is to support. 

Mr. Pence’s aides, however, have been less restrained in private, according to two people briefed on the conversations. In a June meeting with Al Hubbard, an Indiana Republican who was a top economic official in Mr. Bush’s White House, an aide to the vice president, Marty Obst, said that they wanted to be prepared to run in case there was an opening in 2020 and that Mr. Pence would need Mr. Hubbard’s help, according to a Republican briefed on the meeting. Reached on the phone, Mr. Hubbard declined to comment.

Mr. Ayers has signaled to multiple major Republican donors that Mr. Pence wants to be ready.

That's very disturbing IF TRUE.  What do they mean "in case"?  For his part, Obst denies this and says that such talk of Pence running is 2020 is "beyond ridiculous".

Pence, for his part, has denied that he's plotting against Trump and says the money is to help Congressional candidates.  He has still praised him in public and supports him behind the scenes as well per even this piece.  I don't believe Mike Pence is the sort that would ever do this.  He is a good, Christian man, and I do not believe he would try to betray Trump in such a manner.  I believe this is the New York Times trying to divide Trump and Pence and cause trouble.

The article ends with wild speculation that Nikki Haley would run against Trump with Lindsay Graham quoted as saying she's more like him than Trump.  I agree with Lindsay there.  Yes.  Yes she is.  I don't believe she would do that, but it would be a betrayal if true.

1 posted on 08/05/2017 11:20:44 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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It’s the surrender monkey stuff Drudge has been pushing.

We can expect anything from desperate Democrats and pearl-clutchers.

Psy-ops.


2 posted on 08/05/2017 11:25:27 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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This is laughable. If the job numbers keep going up, Trump will win by a larger margin than the first time.


3 posted on 08/05/2017 11:26:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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I hold open the idea that President Trump may decide (or even already has decided) to hold office only for one term. In that case, it’s only prudent for Pence and others to plan. Remember that President Trump is no spring chicken and may not want to suffer these DC swamp clowns for too long.


6 posted on 08/05/2017 11:28:34 PM PDT by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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"...Republicans Make Moves For 2020..."


FU traitorous Uniparty + GOPe scum.

7 posted on 08/05/2017 11:29:36 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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New York Times = Garbage

1 day before the election they predicted that Hillary would win big and now they are predicting what will happen in 3 years?

I just don’t see anybody capable of beating Trump in either party. His opponents are all weaker than the opponents he had last year. Sasse, Cotton, Kamala? LOL


8 posted on 08/05/2017 11:29:43 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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What an astonishingly arrogant and blind gaggle of whiners!

Get a humility injection, idiots! Trump beat the CRAP out of ALL of you, without your support, and you're so butt-hurt about that, that you can't learn the damn lesson and become more LIKE him!

If you would all stop behaving like spoiled children, plotting to become king of the sandbox again, some day... Listen to the deafening cheers of the voters and GET ON BOARD!

9 posted on 08/05/2017 11:31:18 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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New York Times

Stopped reading right there. They have nothing to say, that I want to hear.

13 posted on 08/05/2017 11:37:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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GOPe should remind themselves that they will have less than half of current party support if they push Trump out. His supporters won't be back to reluctantly support them. The have been holding onto the power by insisting that they are the only alternative to Dems. People are tired of this.

They may think that they can demoralize the grass root and get them back to their fold. Instead they will find out that their base is only 25% of entire voting population while Dems are close to over 45%.

Don't be cute. You are walking into political suicide.

19 posted on 08/05/2017 11:49:36 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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Wishful thinking from the traitors like Bill Krystal. I’m with Trump in 2020 and against his opponents D or R.


21 posted on 08/05/2017 11:53:47 PM PDT by Dragonspirit (President Trump do not give CNN a debate in 2020)
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This is the New York SLIME stirring the pot. This is what they HOPE will happen. No “news” here, only more sabotage of the presidency.


29 posted on 08/06/2017 12:07:36 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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I have NEVER trusted Pence. I have said as much ever since he was named as VP pick. No one agreed with me.

I still do not trust him.
It is looking like I was right.


32 posted on 08/06/2017 12:15:54 AM PDT by amihow
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Ben Sasse has Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Ben Sasse has a run in with Jack Posobiec
35 posted on 08/06/2017 12:37:09 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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My advice to Republicans, keep doing the same old shit that you have been doing but don’t be surprised when your base hands you your own ass on a platter.

Please understand, it is not personal, it is just that patriotic Americans are so done with you bullshit.


37 posted on 08/06/2017 12:42:58 AM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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Oh yeah..I am sure Trump’s 40% can’t wait to go and vote for Ben Sasse in 2020.


38 posted on 08/06/2017 12:45:08 AM PDT by libh8er
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blah blah blah New York Times. Not buying your “75” of anything. Not buying any implied conflict between Pence and Trump. Ya’ll been trying that game since Bannon. Not buying anything from anyone who advertises in your newspaper, either. Fake news pimps.


44 posted on 08/06/2017 1:08:24 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Remember when Trump said he could shoot somebody and people would still vote for him?Still stands today only stronger!


45 posted on 08/06/2017 3:16:09 AM PDT by Renegade ( Wax)
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In 2020, I will again vote for Trump.


47 posted on 08/06/2017 4:12:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Voters Make Moves for 2018 as Republican Party Doubts Grow


49 posted on 08/06/2017 4:33:03 AM PDT by LostPassword
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The article ends with wild speculation that Nikki Haley would run against Trump with Lindsay Graham quoted as saying she's more like him than Trump.

Nimrata Randhawa (aka Nikki Haley) is NOT a natural born Citizen. She is the daughter of two Indian foreign nationals.

51 posted on 08/06/2017 4:44:06 AM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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Total fake news.

When they name ONE source, you can take it seriously.


52 posted on 08/06/2017 4:49:04 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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