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IQ costs Oregon parents their kids, but is that fair? (Column)
The Oregonian / Oregonlive.com ^ | Updated on July 19, 2017 at 8:03 PM Posted on July 18, 2017 at 8:00 PM | By Samantha Swindler sswindler@oregonian.com The Oregonian/OregonLive

Posted on 07/20/2017 5:35:28 PM PDT by thecodont

The nursery in Amy Fabbrini and Eric Ziegler's home is filled with unread children's books and unworn baby clothes. A Winnie the Pooh blanket lies untouched inside a crib where a child has never slept.

For nearly four years, the Redmond couple has been fighting to prove to the state of Oregon that they are intellectually capable of raising their children. The Department of Human Services has removed both of their boys, saying the parents are too mentally limited to be good parents.

Fabbrini, 31, and Ziegler, 38, lost custody of their older son, Christopher, shortly after he was born. Five months ago, the state took their second child, newborn Hunter, directly from the hospital. Both are now in foster care.

"I love kids, I was raised around kids, my mom was a preschool teacher for 20-plus years, and so I've always been around kids," Fabbrini said. "That's my passion. I love to do things with kids, and that's what I want to do in the future, something that has to do with kids."

No abuse or neglect has been found, but each parent has a degree of limited cognitive abilities. Rather than build a network of support around them, the state child welfare agency has moved to terminate the couple's parental rights and make the boys available for adoption.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: families; mentallydisabled
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Yes, her father just sounds like a very nasty guy. And I agree, they don’t seem so stupid from what they are quoted as saying, but who knows? A lot of pretty stupid people have kids though and a lot of very smart people are terrible parents. These people didn’t DO anything that was wrong. All the examples cited in story are just the purest of BS, the sunscreen thing for example, my own daughter and her hubby didn’t put ANY sunscreen on the kid the other day, each thought the other had done so and they are both college educated. There may or may not be issues with them, but between this and Charlie Gard it’s quite frightening.


41 posted on 07/20/2017 7:15:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Arthur McGowan

Your studies don’t show what you claim


42 posted on 07/20/2017 7:16:26 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds will parents sometimes foster first but not always)
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To: ifinnegan

I know people who have been foster parents and they tell me that any child that has been in the system has been sexually abused.

100% guaranteed to have happened in that time frame.


43 posted on 07/20/2017 7:20:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Arthur McGowan
“...make the boys available for rape.”

Exactly! Spot on.
44 posted on 07/20/2017 7:33:23 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: thecodont

The agency makes money off of every adoption. Always always follow the money. Even better here they get to act like true Nazis and pretend it’s in the child’s best interest. Exactly like the Nazis.


45 posted on 07/20/2017 7:54:06 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: thecodont

A fairly well=balanced article about the couple in question.


46 posted on 07/20/2017 8:10:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thecodont; goodnesswins; PROCON; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

47 posted on 07/20/2017 8:11:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thecodont

If too stupid to raise children, why aren’t they sterilized / on long term contraception they cannot screw up?


48 posted on 07/20/2017 8:18:36 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: ifinnegan

It’s not sick. The reality is that Oregon is run by liberals and adoption to homosexual parents is possible.


49 posted on 07/20/2017 8:18:46 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: jocon307
When something like this happens it is vital for the parents to raise the hue and cry immediately.

Once the state gets locked into their narrative they will not change. It becomes their truth and they cling to it with the fervor of the most devoted fanatic.

50 posted on 07/20/2017 8:19:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Neidermeyer

If these people had a different skin color, they would be awarding each of them a PhD. They are at the high end of IQ for a certain demographic.


51 posted on 07/20/2017 8:32:58 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Do some research on Child Protective Services and the “foster care” system in various states.”

What’s the alternative? Orphanages?

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52 posted on 07/20/2017 8:39:21 PM PDT by Mears
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To: thecodont

Must be a same-sex couple on a waiting list.


53 posted on 07/20/2017 9:16:53 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Neidermeyer

much of Africa has IQ’s that low....they manage....


54 posted on 07/20/2017 9:22:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Mears

Boy’s Town is an orphanage.


55 posted on 07/20/2017 9:34:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: wintertime

“It’s not sick. The reality is that Oregon is run by liberals and adoption to homosexual parents is possible.”

That’s every state in this day and age.

It’s a sick world view to think every infant adopted will be subject to some sort of abuse.


56 posted on 07/20/2017 10:56:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
The kids are in foster care. That is almost guaranteed abuse.
57 posted on 07/21/2017 5:19:27 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: thecodont

Without looking, i’D say they are white.


58 posted on 07/21/2017 6:03:51 AM PDT by jch10 (Laughing my Ossoff at the Democrats!)
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To: thecodont

I used to have a co-worker who said “Stupid people shouldn’t breed!” She stopped saying that after I asked who should get to decide who is stupid.


59 posted on 07/21/2017 6:32:52 AM PDT by knittnmom
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Boy’s Town is an orphanage.”


Not any more——it is many things,including placing kids with families——in other words,foster care.

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60 posted on 07/21/2017 8:58:04 AM PDT by Mears
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