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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD JUNE 17, 2017
freerepublic | June 17, 2017 | greeenyes

Posted on 06/17/2017 5:29:37 AM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds.

From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table(recipes)preserving, good living - there is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: greeneyes
greeneyes :" I tend to forget about the Neem Oil suffocation option."

Truth be known : I first heard about it here on the gardening thread.
That's why I enjoy this thread - I almost always learn something new !

21 posted on 06/17/2017 6:46:23 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (The Fourth Estate has become Fifth column !)
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To: greeneyes

Don’t worry about it. People can always go to last weeks thread if they are interested.


22 posted on 06/17/2017 6:52:15 AM PDT by MomwithHope (The pendulum is swinging our way!..)
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To: greeneyes

We are being “blessed” with rain AGAIN this weekend! :-)


23 posted on 06/17/2017 7:04:54 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: greeneyes

I do use spray since it helps—a little. I tried organic back in the 60s and early 70s for several years and gave up since I am now a trained toxicologist and realized pesticides are much different and safer today. The residue testing, contrary to what some say, demonstrates neglible-to-nondectable pesticides are occasionally found in a food supply far safer than any time in history. Fungal contaminants, that fungicides prevent, are a far greater threat to human health.

Anyway, I do have a rat terrier that is a good varmint dog, but, we can’t leave him out at night because the coyotes would kill him. He does an admirable job when he is outside—in fact, we have never had a problem when he is out up until 10 pm when we bring him in on the back mud room for the night. Thank you very much for your comments.


24 posted on 06/17/2017 7:15:51 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yes, I do this every year but still have problems. Thank you for your input. I usually spray fruit tree spray a maximum of 4 times according to the label. I’m thinking I may need two applications of the dormant spray?


25 posted on 06/17/2017 7:19:57 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: MomwithHope

They can also click on your name, and go to “in Forum” to see your previous posts. They’re not too far down right now. Great shots! Those fresh veggies sure look yummy! Love your flower pics, too!


26 posted on 06/17/2017 7:20:08 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Neoliberalnot
Neoliberalnot :" I’m thinking I may need two applications of the dormant spray? "

Perhaps, but the dormant oil spray should be applied around the last expected frost
The oil spray just prior to the last frost will freeze any eggs on the tree trunk
and if they are deeper (under the bark - in the cambian layer), it will suffocate the insect eggs.
If your timing is right (just prior to frost), you get a "two-fer" with a single application, and there is no harm to the tree
What can't be stated often enough is that fall clean up is essential to successful orchard management,
because that is where the next years insects like to hide (leaf debris, rotting fruit, fallen branches, etc.), and where they lay their eggs.
Most people don't recognize that many insects are also vectors of diseases ; if you keep the number of insects down, you limit the likelihood of introducing disease.

27 posted on 06/17/2017 7:44:03 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (The Fourth Estate has become Fifth column !)
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To: left that other site

I was just thinking how remarkably blessed we all are to be living in this country as compared to countries such as Venezuela. The ability to own land privately, and grow our own food is very important to individual freedom.

We are all blessed by God to be living here, even though it’s an imperfect system/world. God Bless us all and the USA!


28 posted on 06/17/2017 7:46:34 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Amen to that!


29 posted on 06/17/2017 7:50:51 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Good points-especially about the fungus. Still, I’d rather not use the pesticides, if I can avoid it. I do sometimes use homemade hotpepper/garlic/onion spray, but I always hesitate, because I want the beneficial bugs and bees to be ok.

So far, we have been able to grow enough sufficient stuff to keep us going. Beans, taters, and maters are the most successful along with the black walnuts and persimmons which we had nothing to do with except pick and eat.


30 posted on 06/17/2017 8:00:09 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: FamiliarFace

Thanks. My Dad whose birthday it is today (RIP 1995)was the best gardener. He used to say - you can’t eat flowers - but he had he most beautiful roses and I have plants from the 4 original ones, well over 70 years old.


31 posted on 06/17/2017 8:16:33 AM PDT by MomwithHope (The pendulum is swinging our way!..)
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To: greeneyes; tubebender; MomwithHope; All
Porch Pots have filled in nicely:

Sugar Ann Snap Peas ready to pick:

Lettuces and Kale

'Ruby' Cabbage:

Sorry for the large size of the pics! I have a new computer and I'm still working on learning new software.

32 posted on 06/17/2017 9:08:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You can resize them right here.

After src="" and a space, then add, width="1000px"

33 posted on 06/17/2017 10:30:29 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I haven’t has much luck with our one tree bought from wallie world. Three years now. The first year, it was really too small for fruit so I pulled most of the buds off and left three. Those black beetles with greenish tint, that I can’t remember the name of, ate all the leaves and then got into the fruit. The last two years, the frost got the buds. This thing buds about the same time as the dogwoods and redbuds bloom which is too early in my opinion but I don’t think walmart cares if what they sell is correct for the zone they sell it in. I don’t even think it had a variety listed. Won’t be buying fruit trees from them again.

I’ll be going by this. Home Fruit Production: Peach and Nectarine Culture
http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G6030
and this; Fruit Spray Schedules for the Homeowner
http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G6010-7

From everything I’ve read, fruit trees just have to be sprayed, period.


34 posted on 06/17/2017 10:42:38 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Pollard

THANKS! I knew someone would know. I’ll save that formula for next time. I looked in The HTML Sandbox but couldn’t find it. :)


35 posted on 06/17/2017 10:44:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: greeneyes

It’s killing me that all I planted this year was yukon gold taters. Is there anything I can still plant in NE MO?

My neighbor planted all kinds of stuff so I’m jealous. Of course he keeps telling me I don’t need to plant anything because he planted so much.

I do have one volunteer mater plant. I need to move it as it’s getting too much shade.


36 posted on 06/17/2017 10:46:04 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Pollard

‘Japanese Beetles’ are the culprits.

If you want to replace your peach trees (you need two for better production!) try either ‘Contender’ or, ‘Reliance’ both from Jung’s.

Mark your calendar to order in January, 2018 as they sell out FAST!

http://www.jungseed.com

(Shameless Plug, though I don’t work there anymore; RETIRED! Wheeee!)


37 posted on 06/17/2017 10:48:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Beautiful pix! Some could be computer wallpaper. IMO nothing goes better with sugar snap peas than carrot pate as a dip, I posted it this week on the cooking thread. Or just check out my recent posts.


38 posted on 06/17/2017 11:12:40 AM PDT by MomwithHope (The pendulum is swinging our way!..)
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To: greeneyes

Hot hot hot in Central Missouri this week. Got some badly needed rainfall over the last two days. 1.3” Thursday night and another .3” last night.

Got a bunch more dirt hauled out of the pond before the rains came. Pulled weeds in the kitchen garden getting space ready to plant Mrs. Augie’s russian pickle cukes.

The pumpkins, squash, watermelon, cantelope and sweet corn that I planted in the market garden last weekend is all starting to come up.

We’re off to KC for a music show tonight, then over to Fort Riley on Sunday to see #3 Son Taylor, DiL Rachel and the grandboys. Taylor has been in Korea for the last nine months. It will be nice to see him.


39 posted on 06/17/2017 11:33:48 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Neoliberalnot

Peaches in Misery are not easy. I get a crop maybe 1 out of 3 years, and they will almost all have a worm or bird pecker hole. I could spray em, but it’s not much trouble to eat around the bad spots.

The key to keeping the deer and other furry varmints out is to let the dogs sleep outside at night when there’s fruit on the trees.


40 posted on 06/17/2017 11:40:08 AM PDT by Augie
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