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Is The Electric Car Boom Running Out Of Fuel?
Oil Price ^ | 06 June 2017 | Charles Kennedy

Posted on 06/08/2017 3:42:57 PM PDT by Lorianne

A perfect storm is brewing in the 21st-Century energy market, and it has nothing to do with OPEC.

It’s about batteries that charge everything from mainstream electric cars to massive power walls and mountains of consumer electronics.

More specifically, it’s about what goes into those batteries—and it’s not just lithium.

The other element that makes up 35 percent of the lithium-ion batteries mass produced at Tesla’s (NASDAQ: TSLA) Nevada gigafactory—and at a dozen of other behemoths slated to come on line—is cobalt.

And it’s already in dramatically short supply.

A part of the answer to the cobalt deficit is 100 percent American, and this little-known miner is sitting on a prime Idaho cobalt project that is one of only two that looks likely to come online in the U.S.— and it’s right in Tesla’s backyard.

(Excerpt) Read more at oilprice.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: cobalt; energy; liberalclaptrap
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To: TexasGator
You are way behind the times.

That's a badge of honor here at Free Republic.

21 posted on 06/08/2017 4:37:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Vince Ferrer

Beautiful!


22 posted on 06/08/2017 4:39:22 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: unixfox

When they first came out I saw a few. On trailers headed for service. Now I see them everywhere I go. Running. Some long trips too.


23 posted on 06/08/2017 4:39:40 PM PDT by enduserindy (I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: Lorianne

This explains the sudden PR avalanche of “the inevitably of autonomous cars” which of course are all ways unexblicably linked to publically shared electric vehicles ...


24 posted on 06/08/2017 4:43:17 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Lorianne

My 1968 Ford is getting close to being finished and on the road. It’ll have a battery to help start the 500hp gasoline engine in it. That and some electric accessories is as soon to electric as I expect to ever be.


25 posted on 06/08/2017 4:47:35 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Lorianne

Not as long as we have coal and nuclear. Energy efficiency in the form of more efficient appliances and LED lighting is reducing energy consumption in those traditional areas which can be used for EV recharging.

To those who say EVs are not a big part of the future, I say “Just watch”...


26 posted on 06/08/2017 4:49:36 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: tet68

Good point. That “boom” is kind of like the sparks that result from when you hit a piece of concrete with a hammer.


27 posted on 06/08/2017 4:50:38 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Lorianne

They’ll find something else to make batteries out of or store energy differently.


28 posted on 06/08/2017 4:59:05 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Lorianne

Sponsored article. i.e. advertisement


29 posted on 06/08/2017 5:20:03 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Lorianne

Was there a boom? The tech’s just not there yet. It’s good stuff to work on, developing the tech, but it’s not ready for primetime.


30 posted on 06/08/2017 5:21:13 PM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: rigelkentaurus

“My 1968 Ford is getting close to being finished “

Ditto my 67 Camaro. Only 400HP.


31 posted on 06/08/2017 5:29:58 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: editor-surveyor

“How many HP does it have with a dead battery, and the electric grid knocked out?”

Are you kidding? A Tesla would be the ideal car in such a scenario, but you would need to go solar. And that’s part of the whole Tesla paradigm.

If I could afford to go completely off-grid to insulate myself from a cataclysmic event like you described, a Tesla would be my first choice for a car. All-electric. Low maintenance. Safe. Can outrun pretty much anything on the road including most motorcycles.


32 posted on 06/08/2017 5:35:25 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Lorianne

US Cobalt is a penny stock that looks like it’s being pumped and about to be dumped.


33 posted on 06/08/2017 5:43:49 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Lorianne

To say nothing of the fossil fuels that generate electricity to run these things.


34 posted on 06/08/2017 5:55:34 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: editor-surveyor
QUOTE: How many HP does it have with a dead battery, and the electric grid knocked out?

Same as a car with no petroleum. If the grid goes down, there won't be any gas replenishment, and what's at the local Circle K will run out quickly, if you can manage to get it out of the underground tank.

I love old muscle cars and Hellcats and C7 corvettes as much as any car guy, but electric is superior in just about every way, except range and ease of refueling. Matter of time. You make the same arguments that were made by the buggy whip manufacturers regarding horseless carriages, or by the Horse and Wagon operators against steam engines.

Once battery technology leaps again, electrics will be everywhere. Just watch and see.

35 posted on 06/08/2017 6:00:17 PM PDT by jimmyray (there is no problem so bad that you can't make it worse)
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To: Lorianne

I’d love to have an electric car but I’d still need a “regular” car for longer distances. An electric car doesn’t make sense for me.


36 posted on 06/08/2017 6:24:16 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Secret Agent Man
One day the econuts are going to turn hard on the lithium battery makers and users.

As well they should. Used lithium ion batteries aren't exactly recycle friendly. See below. But bear in mind they're the same types of people who voted overwhelmingly at one of their conferences to ban that universal solvent Di-Hydrous Oxide (H2O). Science and logic aren't their strong suits.


37 posted on 06/08/2017 6:30:49 PM PDT by katana
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To: Lorianne
But it isn’t just the price that’s got manufacturers worried. It’s the shortage of availability.

This writer does not know about markets and probably thinks things and prices are "allocated." His two sentences are mirror reflections of each other. There is no "but."

38 posted on 06/08/2017 6:46:07 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Lorianne

The problem with eCars is the long recharge time and not the range. Yet range is all they talk about. eCars are just not convenient.


39 posted on 06/08/2017 6:50:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: antidemoncrat

“So if they factor in the fuel costs for charging the batteries, I wonder what the real MPG for electric cars amounts to?”

It is about the equivalent of $1 per gallon of gas. It is cheaper to fill up, but it takes forever to offset the high price and the battery pack replacement every so often.


40 posted on 06/08/2017 6:59:26 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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