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Russia successfully tests 'unstoppable' 4,600mph hypersonic weapon that is [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 31, 2017 | Phoebe Weston

Posted on 05/31/2017 7:26:01 AM PDT by C19fan

Russia has launched five successful flights of a hypersonic jet that is capable of destroying an aircraft carrier with a single impact, according to a new report. The Zircon cruise missile travels between 3,800mph and 4,600mph - five to six times the speed of sound - and puts Russia 'half a decade' ahead of the US', the report says. This makes it faster than any anti-missile system, including those that are expected to appear in the next two decades.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aeronautics; aerospace; aviation; hypersonic; hypersonicjet; hypersonics; missiles; projectiles; russiaweapons
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Fake news?
1 posted on 05/31/2017 7:26:01 AM PDT by C19fan
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Fake news or not, a defense does not have to be faster than an incoming missile. This missile is not a good thing, because it reduces defensive reaction time and the selection of defensive weapons, but it's not in any way the end of aircraft carriers.


2 posted on 05/31/2017 7:30:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Fake news?

Yeah, gotta call BS on this one. The speed cited would cause the platform to disintegrate or melt. The shock wave would cause catastrophic damage.

3 posted on 05/31/2017 7:30:40 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: C19fan

It’s just a matter of math and putting enough garbage into the flight path to damage it enough that it stops.
When you figure that one design for an anti-ballistic missile weapon was basically a giant umbrella frame that was inert because the impact speed would be enough to destroy the warhead.. it makes the term “unstoppable” rather inaccurate.
And nuclear warheads are reentry vehicles that travel MUCH faster than this supposedly “unstoppable” missile.


4 posted on 05/31/2017 7:31:29 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: C19fan

I remember the hype for laser weapons at one time. Are they ever going to be of much usefulness?


5 posted on 05/31/2017 7:36:45 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Darksheare

Bingo! At that speed, any sort of shrapnel will impact it’s capability to hit the target.


6 posted on 05/31/2017 7:38:19 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: boycott
I remember the hype for laser weapons at one time. Are they ever going to be of much usefulness?

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away they were all the rage.

7 posted on 05/31/2017 7:39:30 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: C19fan

I don’t think anything can fly mach 6 in the lower atmosphere without melting. There’s no material strong enough.


8 posted on 05/31/2017 7:40:10 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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We’ll know when the Norks claim to have one...................


9 posted on 05/31/2017 7:41:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (You can't assimilate one whose entire reason for being here is to not assimilate in the first place.)
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To: rjsimmon

How controllable would it be flying at 4600 mph through dense atmosphere ? I am guessing it would have to fly a predetermined path with no room for error if it’s to hit a tiny speck (aircraft carrier) in the middle of a vast ocean. Now couple that with ‘Soviet technology’ and it’s more likely to end up straight in the drink.


10 posted on 05/31/2017 7:46:56 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SgtHooper

Just knicking the surface would create a hot spot and lead to thermal damage.


11 posted on 05/31/2017 7:51:37 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Ablative materials will allow it to last long enough to reach its target. They poor conductors of heat, keeping the airframe cool, and the ablation process takes a majority of the aeroheating away from the vehicle.


12 posted on 05/31/2017 7:52:04 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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Russia has launched five successful flights of a hypersonic jet that is capable of destroying an aircraft carrier with a single impact, according to a new report. The Zircon cruise missile travels between 3,800mph and 4,600mph - five to six times the speed of sound - and puts Russia 'half a decade' ahead of the US'...

Except the U.S. was already testing the X-51 A "Waverider" hypersonic cruise missile back in 2010. Who knows what they have now.

13 posted on 05/31/2017 7:53:42 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("Daddy, what did you do in the Deep State War?")
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Near sea level, I wouldn’t think even ablative heat shields can protect something at mach 6. But I’m no expert on this.


14 posted on 05/31/2017 7:56:16 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Darksheare

Depends on the surface material. Ablative materials still work quite well even with irregularities.


15 posted on 05/31/2017 7:56:41 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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*cough cough* Columbia reentry disaster *cough cough*

Ablatives don’t work if there is enough damage.


16 posted on 05/31/2017 7:59:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It really depends on the amount of time the vehicle is moving at Mach 6, and how much ablative material one is willing to put on the airframe.


17 posted on 05/31/2017 8:02:43 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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Tiles are much more fragile than some of the ablative materials out there. But, yes, they are not impervious to damage, but more tolerant of it.

Honestly, don’t you think the missile makers have thought of these limitations?


18 posted on 05/31/2017 8:05:10 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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Yeah, right. Lying news. When the SR-71 was recruited and used by the military, a mach 3.5 aircraft, publicly, it ended up being turned into a spy plane because it ran over it’s own bullets and missiles. It also had a fuel limitation that it had to be refueled to go anywhere just short of cruising altitude right after takeoff.

Which brings to mind, without fuel, what type of range could this thing have? Judging by the picture of it, the body would have been had to be totally fuel and unable to carry any real strong type of payload, if at all, anyway.

The US has already started developing an air craft, the SR-72 to replace the semi-retired SR-71 at Lockheed/McDonald Douglas.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane

But it also is a spy plane carrying cameras with the exception of being unmanned. They originally retired the SR-71 due to a lack of need with the use of satellites. So they already have operational orbiting cameras.


19 posted on 05/31/2017 8:10:46 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Mach 8.5 at Holloman Air Force Base in 2003.


20 posted on 05/31/2017 8:11:59 AM PDT by culper jr (We need to stop our modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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