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Russian military planes fly by Alaska for a FOURTH night in a row
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 21, 2017 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 04/21/2017 11:17:58 AM PDT by C19fan

For the fourth time in as many days, Russian military planes have flown too close to the U.S. for comfort. Each night this week starting Monday, the Russian military has sent planes flying towards Alaska. The planes have remained in international airspace for the length of their journeys, but have gotten as close as 36 nautical miles off the Alaskan mainland.

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To: montag813

“Russia is so pathetic. Oil below $50 once again. Pooty is hurting big time.”


About the only thing that makes Russia a big player is the leftovers from the old USSR: nukes, lots and lots of nukes.

Otherwise, we are dealing with a country that has an economy the size of Italy (or New York State, if you prefer), which is highly dependent upon oil and natural gas for its foreign currency reserves (which it often times uses to cover budgetary shortfalls), and which has a knack for picking “allies” and vassal states that are even more of a basket case than they are (Cuba, Venezuela, Syria...need I go on?). Oil and natural gas are pretty much guaranteed to not go much higher in price for the foreseeable future, as Trump has already opened up the floodgates for the oil companies to drill like crazy, and the US is sitting on probably more oil than Saudi Arabia (and definitely more natural gas, and not by a little).

They also have a pretty crappy geopolitical position - hemmed in on the west by a bunch of former vassal states that pretty much hate their guts (and are arming themselves with Western weapons) and backed by NATO, on the south by a bunch of unstable Moslem countries/fiefdoms/loose tribal haters of the rest of the planet (please refer any complaints about this to the Department of Redundant Redundancies Department) and to the east by 1.3 billion Chinamen who still harbor a grudge about half of Siberia being stolen from the Manchu Dynasty 400+ years ago. Oh, and the largest economy on the planet on the other side of the North Pole, with thousands of nukes pointed in Russia’s direction from the land, sea and air, and a truly first-class military (and now with a pretty tough cookie running the show). Yeah, not a position that I’d like to be in. The only geopolitical advantage that Russia has is its sheer size - as in, no one will be stoopid enough to try to invade them for at least another 100 years.

One thing that they have is a smart and rather ruthless leader...but even he can’t find skittles-shitting, flying unicorns to make his country more competitive with the US.

You can’t dismiss Russia’s ability to really screw things up for us and the rest of the world, but they’d gain nothing from that except a lot more radioactive parking space to add to the over-abundance that they have in the Chernobyl area. They’re deserving of respect for that, but they are no longer any real competitive threat to this nation (if they ever really were, and there’s a bunch of evidence that their economy was a giant Potemkin Village during the entirety of the Cold War).


41 posted on 04/21/2017 2:04:10 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr
They are not loaded and the USA is notified of their intended trip. Happens all the time.

We do the same thing.

Us old folks remember the U-2 incident and Gary Powers.

42 posted on 04/21/2017 2:11:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah, I was in utero at that time, so I’m having a bit of trouble recalling the live incident, but I’m also certain that after that, and the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the various nuclear alerts and false alarms since then, that there are procedures to make sure that neither side needlessly risks a confrontation. That’s why we let them know that we were about to hit Syria.

Neither side is suicidal, or otherwise insane. Disagreeable on occasion, maybe....


43 posted on 04/21/2017 2:39:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: entropy12
Tina Fey said it. Not Sara Palin
44 posted on 04/21/2017 3:00:37 PM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: mabarker1
just sniffin
45 posted on 04/21/2017 3:03:15 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: arthurus

They could play it up good by sending up some plane have ‘em go somewhere or just circle around. That way the spys that surround all our bases will be suckered also.


46 posted on 04/21/2017 5:06:10 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: C19fan

47 posted on 04/21/2017 5:08:53 PM PDT by McGruff (The terrorists have elected to receive.)
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To: C19fan

That’s okay. Many political class folks on the west coast haven’t assimilated as Americans, yet, and identify more with the Russians. The bombers won’t get close to the Midwest or southern states, though.


48 posted on 04/21/2017 5:40:38 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: GOPJ
Try munching on this one...

Should we scramble? Can we?

CA....

49 posted on 04/21/2017 5:59:49 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Chances Are
Try this!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=73731

CA....

50 posted on 04/21/2017 6:02:22 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Chances Are
Try this!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=73731

CA....

51 posted on 04/21/2017 6:02:39 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Chances Are

Sorry for the double post...and the non-linking link!

Just cut and paste!

(I’m just having a bad day...)

CA....


52 posted on 04/21/2017 6:04:15 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: C19fan
Does anybody blame Putin for this?

With the Dems and the media's moronic, psychotic “blame Russia” reaction to their loss, the world thinks America is a basket case. The Dem/media alliance is a national security risk (and more).

53 posted on 04/21/2017 6:09:04 PM PDT by Vision (Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid - Reagan)
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To: Ancesthntr
"Turboprops - not turbojets. Its got freaking PROPELLERS, for crying out loud."

They carry standoff weapons:

Of course, they also do "zombie flights" up and down the US coastline to collect ELINT.

54 posted on 04/21/2017 7:01:23 PM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: Ancesthntr

Thank you for a truly exceptional reply, which also has the bones of a great opinion piece.


55 posted on 04/21/2017 10:03:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: entropy12
I love Sarah Palin for her spirit and her consistent conservatism. But you gotta admit, saying she can see Russia from her backyard, was giving the comedians big fodder.

She never said it - Tina Fey said it while doing a Palin impression......

What drove it was an interview where Palin said, “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska”

I agree with the guy who called you an ass - at least a dupe or cats paw for never discovering the truth to such fake news.

56 posted on 04/22/2017 2:50:26 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Chances Are

When I click on your link I get this: “Sorry, the requested document does not exist on this server.”

Another link? Or something searchable?


57 posted on 04/22/2017 9:47:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (President Trump: NEVER RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS. Watching dem fascists go nuts is fun.)
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To: trebb

Regardless, Tina fey has managed to permanently distort Sarah Palin’s image. Tina Fey exploited the horrible interview Sarah had on ABC TV with Charlie whatshisname. She should have refused to appear on a liberal network, UNPREPARED on national issues.


58 posted on 04/22/2017 9:52:43 AM PDT by entropy12 (Read my profile for how to really reduce healthcare costs & improve quality.)
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To: GOPJ

The best I can do at the moment is give you the URL address copied from the address bar:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=73731

Just cut and paste, and let me know how it works out.

Like I say, it works for me!

CA....


59 posted on 04/23/2017 11:31:40 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: montag813
Looks like a pretty nice aircraft to me

Maximum speed: 830 km/h (516 mph)[4]
Range: 15,000 km (8,100 nmi, 9,400 mi) unrefueled
Service ceiling: 13,716 m (45,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 10 m/s (2,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 606 kg/m² (124 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 235 W/kg (0.143 hp/lb)
Missiles: Up to 15,000 kg (33,000 lb), including the Raduga Kh-20, Kh-22, and Kh-55/101/102, or 8 Kh-101/102 cruise missiles mounted on underwing pylons.

Our B-52

Maximum speed: 560 kn (650 mph, 1,047 km/h)
Cruise speed: 442 kn (525 mph, 844 km/h)
Combat radius: 4,480 mi (3,890 nmi, 7,210 km)
Ferry range: 10,145 mi (8,764 nmi, 16,232 km)
Service ceiling: 50,000 ft (15,000 m)
Rate of climb: 6,270 ft/min (31.85 m/s)
Wing loading: 120 lb/ft² (586 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.31
Lift-to-drag ratio: 21.5 (estimated)
Bombs: Approximately 70,000 lb (31,500 kg) mixed ordnance; bombs, mines, missiles, in various configurations.

The B-52 is clearly the better aircraft, rate of climb really stands out. But the TU-95 looks like it can get the job done too.

60 posted on 04/23/2017 11:56:09 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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