Just the Union’s Top guys showing their stuff for their guys. Nobody has blamed any pilots for anything..................
I do hate Unions. Bunch of thugs.
this could get good, pilots union vs police union.
I’m glad someone is finally pointing out this important detail.
Yes, United acted stupidly, but once United calls TSA or the cops, what happens next is in law enforcement’s hands. The Chicago Department of Aviation is the one that administered the beating on this guy.
Given the way the security state we now live in, especially with regards to flying, I’m not surprised.
“””””””””Angry United Airlines pilots’ union issue statement denying ALL responsibility for forcible removal of doctor last week and say Chicago cops are to blame “””””””””””
I have said all along that it was the cops who beat the guy up and dragged him off the plane. United did not do it.
Trying to focus all the blame on the cops and cover for the ground crew and management. I’ll presume at this point that the pilots weren’t innocent, either.
Dao's attorney kept mentioning that the pilot is in charge of the aircraft during his press conference yesterday.
The crew must be looking at legal bills that they expect the union to help pick up.
And they’ll probably beat the $hit out of us if we disagree with them.
And they’ll probably beat the $hit out of us if we disagree with them.
Dao was responsible for what happened. He should be in jail.
One of the reports I read said that Dao has hired top Chicago personal injury and corporate law attorneys.
This should been done at Check-in
Trouble is ahead. Instead of circling the wagons, segments of United are headed for the tall grass and throwing others under the bus. Pure damage control.
I thought they always said the captain is the final authority onboard the plane.
(Execpt maybe when it’s docked at the terminal and then he can blame everything off on some groundside clerk?)
We’ll see what the court says.
The drama queen Dao said his experience was worse than the Vietkong he experienced. Drama Queen Dao. Guys like him are what make everyday living crappy. Whether it’s at the store, driving, or on a plane. He thinks he is more important than you or me and he doesn’t have to follow directions when it suits him. And he’s a drama queen to boot........fool.
Ahhhhhhh.....now we’re getting down to the heart of the matter.
Thousands of Press people in this country and not one of them is interested in talking to the pilot?
Seems kind of strange.
It’s like they’re covering for the pilot.
Let’s hear from him/her.
Reading the whole story both the pilots union and United are trying to pin the entire blame on the airport police, while United is setting the stage for limiting their exposure and pointing out the flight and plane are owned by Republic, not United.
First - the pilots are going to take a hit, the captain was in charge of the plane and he was responsible for letting people on to illegally remove a boarded passenger.
Instead of scrambling to limit liability, both the pilots union and United should be scrambling to fix the mess United is responsible for with their bureaucracay.
1. Get their procedures in line with their Contract with passengers.
a. Denied boarding means denied boarding - get a legitimate process for determining who can board and who can get “bumped” and implement it before boarding - recognizing once they are on the plane they have no right to take anyone off (unless the passenger violated one of the enumerated, contractual provisions in their contract Rule 21).
b. Give the gate agents more authority for increasing amounts for volunteers to be bumped - and streamline the process to go beyond a limit - create a hotline to the company to deal with situations such as this where they will need to exceed their authorized amounts.
2. Recognize their reputation for treating passengers poorly is more than justified, and that they are taking immediate steps to fix it.
a. Go the extra mile - proactively state that while they are in the process of a thorough review of procedures there will be no involuntary bumps for flight crew / employee transportation priorities - only voluntary bumps - for at least the next 60 days.
b. Priorities will go to ticketed passengers with assigned seats in making any involuntary bump for other reasons.
There are lots of things they can do - and they should not let another day go by without some concrete action beyond no longer calling on the police to remove passengers. Frankly, United’s suggestion that they won’t do that anymore is beyond laughable - they never had a right to call the police in the first place for removing a passenger not in violation of rule 21.