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Why did Assad use nerve gas?
Asia Times ^ | April 7, 201 | Stephen Bryen

Posted on 04/09/2017 3:34:33 AM PDT by Mechanicos

Then why did he do it? He used nerve gas to block a peace process agreed by the US and Russia that would turn Syria into cantons and reduce Alawite control only to those districts where the Alawite minority dominates.

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To: TheStickman

A lot of Assad supporters on FR.


61 posted on 04/09/2017 7:13:13 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: Mechanicos

Assad thinks he is killing terrorists.


62 posted on 04/09/2017 7:19:32 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Mechanicos

So many experts commenting on this subject without first hand information. Did they all have intelligent briefings and see the information that prompt the President to act? I had never seen so many FR defending Assad. What is next? Defending North Korea’s dictator?


63 posted on 04/09/2017 7:20:15 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: Clutch Martin

I’ve read so many times about the first responders not having the proper safety gear. This is a third world country. Most of them have nothing but t-shirts and sandals. If safety wear were readily available, would they even know how to use it. Also, they would have to assume or know what they were dealing with. Plus, you see a bunch of women and children suffering and the immediate reaction is just to get to them and help them. Lots of people run into harms way to help others.


64 posted on 04/09/2017 7:21:41 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: HenpeckedCon

CS is one of two types of tear gas; the other being CN. Nobody was killed with CS, though they might wish they were.

CN irritates your eyes and that’s about all. I found it annoying, nothing more.

CS, on the other hand, irritates all of your mucus membranes including nose, throat and lungs, and all of it hurts.

These things I learned by tear-gassing THOUSANDS as a U.S. Air Force gas mask instructor. And if the students gave me any crap that day, or wore too much brass, then I might have added an extra CS capsule, or three, to the burner. Purely by accident, of course.


65 posted on 04/09/2017 7:45:38 AM PDT by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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To: Tamatoa

*** Lots of Assad Supporters on FR ***

Since I don’t believe Assad is a threat to the US, since I don’t support regime change in Syria, and since ISIS is a bigger threat than Assad, I am an Assad Supporter.


66 posted on 04/09/2017 7:49:39 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: Mechanicos
IMO: Our military surveillance of the middle east is such that we know and see every movement in real time. We saw the aircraft loaded with chemical weapons and we saw them deliver them. We would not have expended that amount of expensive cruise missiles otherwise. We gain by weakening Assad at this moment in order to keep the Syrian civil war going. We did the same during the Iran-Iraq war as I recall.
67 posted on 04/09/2017 7:49:47 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: Mechanicos

I hope and pray that the President is doing the right thing...

...but I don’t think he is.

The Assad family keep the peace for a very long time. It was BO’s bs ‘arab sping’ that destabilized the whole Mideast.

The arab spring was just an excuse for radical muslimes to overthrow the governments that supported the US during Operation Iraqi Freedom in ‘03.

I’m thinking jihadists unleashed the gas to get the superpowers to go toe to toe.

We are slowly dying the death of a thousand cuts.


68 posted on 04/09/2017 7:58:29 AM PDT by exPBRrat (.)
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To: DNME

Yes CS is very irritating. Just for laughs, there’s a tree right outside the exit of the Fort Leonard Wood gas chamber. I couldn’t get out of that chamber fast enough. I managed not to hit the tree though.


69 posted on 04/09/2017 8:01:39 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: Mechanicos

He’s winning so doing it was dumb dumb dumb dumb


70 posted on 04/09/2017 8:05:36 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: bruoz

That’s my understanding as well, US could observe every step in the process leading up to the bombing and returning to base. As well as capture all communications in the region. That’s SOP in a war zone now.


71 posted on 04/09/2017 8:07:14 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

It was Saran and most likely Russian.

The Russians want only one outcome in Syria, the Russians in control of Syria. Trump having any kind of success in region is big problem for the Russians and their plans.

When you line the unsavory characters up; ISIS, Assad, Turkey, Russians/ Putin....Russians/Putin are the worse and most deadly by far.


72 posted on 04/09/2017 8:08:07 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you an2d to save you, He will.)
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To: butlerweave

Does anything Muslims do make sense?


73 posted on 04/09/2017 8:08:16 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

The tinfoil is thick on this thread.


74 posted on 04/09/2017 8:14:18 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Mechanicos

Why did you stop beating your wife?


75 posted on 04/09/2017 8:14:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: sockmonkey

(Since I don’t believe Assad is a threat to the US, since I don’t support regime change in Syria, and since ISIS is a bigger threat than Assad, I am an Assad Supporter.)

What you said is the same as saying,

“Since I don’t believe KIM-JONG-UN is a threat to the US, since I don’t support regime change in North Korea and since RUSSIA is a bigger threat than KIM-JONG_UN, I am an KIM-JONG-UN Supporter.”

Ok got it. Same logic.


76 posted on 04/09/2017 8:28:52 AM PDT by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: Tamatoa

“A lot of Assad supporters on FR.”

Can’t say I’ve observed any Assad supporters ever on FR. I expect they would get the ban hammer asap if they ever showed up here.

I have observed some folks twisting the words of President Trump’s supporters with false, lame accusations that suggest supporting President Trump’s strike in Syria is equal to supporting Soros & Alinksy. Quite bizarre stuff, IMO.


77 posted on 04/09/2017 8:54:28 AM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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To: HenpeckedCon

sure was on 4-19-93


78 posted on 04/09/2017 1:53:24 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

I don’t remember the exact date. It was sometime in Nov ‘82.


79 posted on 04/09/2017 2:18:27 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: PIF
There was no investigation, just the assumption that only a state actor can make and posses Sarin.

Absolute nonsense.

Evidence was gathered and presented to the President, his Cabinet (including Defense Secretary Mattis), and his advisors. An unclassified summary of that evidence was also presented to the public, replete with aerial photos and flight path information.

And let's not forget, President Trump has compelling reasons to be skeptical of his own intelligence apparatus. So to somehow think that the President would have taken this action in the absence of convincing evidence is just ridiculous on its face.

On the contrary, I'm quite certain that the evidence shown to the President was so overwhelming that it erased any doubts he might have had.

Ignored are various unconfirmed reports that moving Sarin from Libya was part of Benghazi.

What makes you say such reports were ignored? I'm sure they were given all due consideration. You're just making another baseless presumption in an attempt to support what is obviously hysterical opposition to the President's limited military action.

Dennis Kucinich also claims that he believed Assad’s wanting to get rid of the gas when he questioned him as part of an interview.

Well it looks like Assad found a creative way to do that.

Assad as other have pointed out had no real motive for using gas, and it was very limited strike which make no sense militarily.

Ruthless dictators are sometimes less than predictable in their motives, and sometimes behave less than intelligently or logically.

But if you want to speculate about motives, maybe Assad's motive was to challenge a President who he thought was weak, like the feckless Obama administration had been. Maybe Assad's intent was to make America appear timid or indecisive on the world stage.

If so, the tactic backfired.

In any event, nobody can expect a dictator like Assad to behave according to civilized norms. After all, this wasn't the first time Assad used chemical agents in an attack, was it?

ISIS on the other hand has motive to use and likely expertise to make Sarin, but that possibility is totally ignored by supposedly smart people in DJT’s government.

Another presumption that's absurd. Are you honestly trying to claim that the possibility of ISIS using Sarin was "totally ignored"? It was doubtless given all due consideration.

The armchair generals sure are quick to play the second-guessing game...

80 posted on 04/09/2017 2:53:33 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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