Posted on 03/01/2017 9:13:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
A century-old statue of a Confederate soldier that stands outside a Maryland courthouse will be moved to private property.
Montgomery County Executive Ike Leggett said in a news release Tuesday that the county will cover the cost to relocate the bronze statue from the courthouse in Rockville to White’s Ferry, a docking site on the Potomac River named for a Confederate general. …
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You are correct, the *Union* fought the war to keep the United States intact as one nation, which they clearly stated at the time in 1861.
On the other hand, the fact that *Confederacy* seceded and waged war on the north in order to PRESERVE SLAVERY is ALSO a demostraable FACT, and their OWN documents of secession state that directly and clearly.
And yet many you still want to glorify an evil government created for the EXPLICIT cause of enslaving human beings, and continually FALSELY claim it was started over "states rights" when their own actions and constitution demostrate otherwise and that they were not interesting in giving state governments any "rights" that could be used to curtail their precious human cargo. You celebrate and champion the "heritage" of a "nation" created to promote an unspeakable evil against human beings.
You sicken me.
You are correct, the *Union* fought the war to keep the United States intact as one nation, which they clearly stated at the time in 1861. The decision to use the war to abolish slavery came about much later.
On the other hand, the fact that *Confederacy* seceded and waged war on the north in order to PRESERVE SLAVERY is ALSO a demonstrable FACT, and their OWN documents of secession state that directly and clearly.
And yet many you still want to glorify an evil government created for the EXPLICIT cause of enslaving human beings, and continually FALSELY claim it was started over "states rights" when their own actions and Constitution demonstrate otherwise and show that they were NOT interested in giving state governments any "rights" that could be used to curtail their precious human cargo. You celebrate and champion the "heritage" of a "nation" created to promote an unspeakable evil against human beings.
You sicken me.
Some people are really taken in by the neoconfederate propaganda.
Some others hold bizarre views on the Dred Scott v. Sanford decision and actually believe it was Constitutional.
Dixie ping to be on or off the list off send me FReep mail
MD should replace the confederate statue with one of Margaret Sanger- most dems would not see the iirony
Ping
Speaking of Yankee bigots
Where’s our local Jonah Goldberg crew?
They have to be here dancing a jig somewhere
As a reenactor of the war between the states since the age of fourteen i`ve had the privilege of honoring both Union and Confederate soliders alike. Seeing the posts on this thread supporting taking down the memorials of dead Confederate soliders is just right down sicking
I have to take issue with your post StoneWall.
I went back and re-read all the comments by FReepers on this thread. I didn’t see a single one that (A) supported the removal of any historical monuments or, (B) celebrated the left’s commission of their heinous acts.
I number among those who view the acts of the southern rebels as the primary cause for the Civil War, but see history for what it is - a commemoration of our roots. Nothing is gained by “disappearing” the more unseemly parts of our past.
I don’t have a vote, only an opinion. I say leave the statue alone and let the dead bury the past.
We never stopped fighting it. It just went to a slow smolder.
You may not have noticed, but we are *STILL* being ruled by an alliance of corporate interests between Washington D.C. and New York. That "Establishment" everyone complains about? That is that same civil war alliance that defeated the South to protect their own financial interests.
Do you know why the media is liberal and located in New York? Because liberal policies help to enrich the people who make money off of excess government spending. The media hires liberal people to make it easier to push liberal policies, because liberal policies (especially related to excessive spending) feed the wealth making apparatus of their wealthy owners.
I have only come to realize this within the last year. It certainly explains our history and current events better than the official narrative.
So why do people like you promulgate the misleading claim that the Union went to war to end slavery? That is a blatant lie. It is a coverup for the truth. Focusing on slavery as the issue is deliberately misleading.
The truth is that the Union went to war with the South to prevent the South from being financially independent of the North. Too much money was at stake if the South could trade directly with Europe. Too many people were making money off of the existing system.
This is why Lincoln didn't make "slavery" an issue in the war for the first 18 months it was being fought. His New York backers wanted that slaver earned revenue to continue funneling into their pockets. It was only after he realized the South would not be beaten easily that he used the abolition of slavery in the states held to be in "rebellion" as a threat to get them to give up.
Had the South given up in that first 18 months, Lincoln would have protected their slavery. He said so. He supported the Corwin amendment which would make slavery permanent.
So when people like you get on your high horse about "slavery", you are deliberately ignoring the truth about Lincoln and slavery, because you desperately want to believe that what he and the Union did in killing 750,000 people was for some greater moral purpose.
To you the actual truth is a very ugly thing. This is why you don't want to face it.
And yet many you still want to glorify an evil government created for the EXPLICIT cause of enslaving human beings, and continually FALSELY claim it was started over "states rights" when their own actions and constitution demostrate otherwise and that they were not interesting in giving state governments any "rights" that could be used to curtail their precious human cargo. You celebrate and champion the "heritage" of a "nation" created to promote an unspeakable evil against human beings.
Stop trying to push a narrative and claiming that these ideas are coming from me. No, I do not support slavery, and I am glad it is gone. It would have been better had it never existed, but I'm not going to deny the truth of history just because I find an aspect of it ugly.
Slavery was bad, but it was legal and widely practiced in the Union for a little longer than "four score and seven years", and to claim otherwise is just a form of lying.
You sicken me.
Grow up. Stop imagining me to be the boogie man that personifies your projections of evil. I don't support slavery in any sense, and never have. What I do support is the rights of 13 slave owning colonies to break away from Britain, and since our very existence establishes the principle of "Independence" as valid, I support other states exercising the very same right our founders enshrined in the Declaration of Independence.
My position has everything to do with a right to independence, and nothing to do with slavery.
It’s cheap virtue which is what liberals do
Since you love identity politics
Care to wager which side had more Indians
Indians had good reason to distrust the Federals
Slavery was on it’s way out really? If the South had won the war would they have freed the slaves?
Maryland stayed in the Union. What the hell was statue ever in Maryland honoring a Confederate for?
Rather odd thing foe Democrats to do considering the Confederacy was Democrat.
Really General? Then how did all those black people end up in the South?
Yes they would have freed them now my question to you why did Lincoln illegally rip the Western half of Virginia from Virginia?
That’s as stupid an answer as I’ve ever heard. If the South wanted to free the slaves they could have done long before 1861.
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