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Most scientists 'can't replicate studies by their peers'
BBC ^ | 2/22/2017 | Tom Feilden

Posted on 02/25/2017 7:21:05 PM PST by combat_boots

Science is facing a "reproducibility crisis" where more than two-thirds of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments, research suggests.

This is frustrating clinicians and drug developers who want solid foundations of pre-clinical research to build upon.

From his lab at the University of Virginia's Centre for Open Science, immunologist Dr Tim Errington runs The Reproducibility Project, which attempted to repeat the findings reported in five landmark cancer studies.

"The idea here is to take a bunch of experiments and to try and do the exact same thing to see if we can get the same results."

You could be forgiven for thinking that should be easy. Experiments are supposed to be replicable.

The authors should have done it themselves before publication, and all you have to do is read the methods section in the paper and follow the instructions.

Sadly nothing, it seems, could be further from the truth.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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To: combat_boots

See the only ‘scientists’ that get the experiment to ‘work’ are the ones paid to get it to ‘work’, or to support the hypothesis they desire to be true.

Not surprising. Liberal socialists love the end justifies the means.


21 posted on 02/25/2017 7:37:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: combat_boots

Publish or perish.

Research grants.

Towering academic egos.

It’s a recipe for disaster.


22 posted on 02/25/2017 7:37:31 PM PST by JusPasenThru (SJW is the weaponization of compassion.)
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To: BradyLS

Miss Yakamoto??? LOL for the reference.


23 posted on 02/25/2017 7:39:29 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: combat_boots

Experiments are supposed to be replicable.

The authors should have done it themselves before publication


24 posted on 02/25/2017 7:39:48 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: combat_boots
Great timing. The only thing President Trump needs to do to drain the swamp at our most politicized agencies is to require regulations to be based only upon studies that have been reproduced, and publish the data sets used in the study.
25 posted on 02/25/2017 7:40:24 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: combat_boots

One of the most prodigious researchers at the Department of Immunology at the University of Tennessee faked and forged much of his data. Because he was granted so much money for his HSV I and HSV II research his falsification of data was ignored by the administration and faculty. I’d bet no one could replicate half of his data if they tried.


26 posted on 02/25/2017 7:42:48 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: combat_boots

I got a chance to work in a biology lab in college for extra money. Though I am not a biologist I did get an appreciation that experiments can be tricky and complex to pull off, and it takes a certain amount of experience and patience with techniques to actually perform the experiment the way its supposed to be performed.


27 posted on 02/25/2017 7:45:02 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: BradyLS

Well Said!


28 posted on 02/25/2017 7:52:45 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

Sort of related: a great explanation of what Google is capable of.

The Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME) and Its Unparalleled Power To Influence How We Think.

From Stanford:
Full version: https://youtu.be/TSN6LE06J54

(This guy uses the phrase “mind control” at Stanford referring to Google!)

Shorter version: https://youtu.be/BmpFdVZIej0


29 posted on 02/25/2017 7:54:20 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: combat_boots
The Journal of Irreproducible Results
30 posted on 02/25/2017 7:56:52 PM PST by thecodont
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31 posted on 02/25/2017 7:58:08 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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To: Fungi

Oh, they’ll continue to use up grant money to push leftist agendas, til it runs out. Who okays research grant money in the government? Something tells me that at least a good portion of those grants will not be continued.


32 posted on 02/25/2017 7:59:02 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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To: combat_boots; BradyLS; Jack Hammer; eyeamok; mrsmith; dp0622; Billthedrill; allendale

Below is a link to a report I like on the subject. It can be painful for people not in good shape mathematically. I now must include myself in that group, because retirement places me 20 years from exercising my brain in that area.

In general, what the article says is that people overstate the legitimate information that can be gained from the data. Statisticians probably don’t get a subsequent phone call to participate in another study, if they say analysis of data won’t support the conclusion the researcher wants.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/


33 posted on 02/25/2017 7:59:18 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: dadfly
fake news, fake science, it’s all fake, even the printed money.

Yeah. Let's give it all up.

You can donate your fake computer, cars, and drugs to whomever you want but I'll take your fake money.

34 posted on 02/25/2017 7:59:58 PM PST by semimojo
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To: XEHRpa

Zackly! ;-)


35 posted on 02/25/2017 8:00:50 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: combat_boots

Sounds like.... wait for it.... #FakeScience


36 posted on 02/25/2017 8:05:42 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Retain Mike

Is that why I’ve been reading about a miracle cure for cancer since I was 8 in 1976?

The first study showed a miracle and the subsequent ones didn’t?

Just wondering.

SO MANY incredible cures have been reported and then never heard about again since I was a lad.

I know cancer is big money business but so would a cure be for an individual or company.


37 posted on 02/25/2017 8:09:07 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Jack Hammer

I know it didn’t used to be that way, but I do fear that over time, competition for money has probably been a factor in reproducibility. (In my early years, I was a researcher. My experience then has led me to believe that global warming research is all bull hockey.)


38 posted on 02/25/2017 8:09:34 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: combat_boots
"But, but, it's all peer reviewed!

That means that whole bunches of highly disciplined, disinterested thus unbiased scientists in white lab coats (the kind seen on t.v. commercials and 0bama White House Affordable Car Act promos) have already replicated the results!",


39 posted on 02/25/2017 8:11:56 PM PST by BlueDragon (my kinfolk had to fight off wagon burnin' scalp taking Comanches, reckon we could take on a few more)
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To: combat_boots

Science is BS now, its very sad


40 posted on 02/25/2017 8:15:29 PM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First! Th)
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