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What if Trump and Clinton Have the Same Core Beliefs?
Townhall.com ^ | October 6, 2016 | Judge Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 10/06/2016 9:44:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

What if the most remarkable aspect of this presidential election is not how much the two principal candidates disagree with each other but how much they actually agree?

What if they are both statists? What if they both believe that the government's first duty is to take care of itself? What if they both believe in the primacy of the state over the individual? What if, in clashes between the state and individuals, they both would use the power of the state to trample the rights of individuals?

What if the first priority of both is not to decrease the size and scope of government but to expand it? What if they both believe that the federal government may lawfully and constitutionally right any wrong, tax any behavior and regulate any event? What if they both want to add a few thousand new employees to the federal payroll, give them badges and guns and black shirts, and engage them as federal police to insulate the federal government further from the people and the states?

What if, when James Madison wrote the Constitution, he took great pains to reserve powers to the people and the states that were not delegated away to the feds? What if both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump couldn't care less about that?

What if both of them reject the Madisonian principle that the federal government is limited in scope to the 16 unique and discrete powers given to it by the Constitution? What if they even reject the corollary to that principle, which is that the balance of governmental powers -- those not delegated by the Constitution to the feds -- resides in the states? What if they both reject the Madisonian principle that in areas of governmental power retained by the states, the states should be free from federal interference?

What if this principle of a limited federal government depends upon the principle of natural rights -- areas of human behavior and choice stemming from our humanity and immune from government interference? What if the Declaration of Independence and the Ninth Amendment to the Constitution define our natural rights as inalienable? What if both Trump and Clinton reject that? What if she believes in killing innocents by drone and he believes in torturing innocents at Gitmo?

What if both Clinton and Trump accept the principle that the federal government can address any problem for which there is a national political consensus? What if this idea -- championed by Woodrow Wilson, who hated the values of Madison -- is the opposite of what the Framers wrote and intended?

What if this Wilsonian principle has unleashed the federal government to regulate nearly all aspects of personal behavior and to enhance immeasurably the powers of an unelected, unseen and unaccountable federal bureaucracy, which never seems to shrink or change?

What if both Trump and Clinton embrace the idea that federal power, rather than being limited by the Constitution, is limited only by what the feds can't get away with politically? What if this concept was expressly rejected by the Framers but both Trump and Clinton don't care? What if neither of them believes that a limited federal government must reside and remain within the confines of the Constitution?

What if Trump wants the police to be able to stop anyone they wish based on just a hunch that the person is armed or possessing contraband? What if the Fourth Amendment -- which requires the police to have individual articulable suspicion, not just hunches and not judgments based on race, in order to stop a person -- was expressly written to prohibit just what Trump wants? What if Trump doesn't care because he prefers votes to constitutional fidelity?

What if Clinton wants free higher education for all in America who go to community colleges, all of which are government-owned? What if the Constitution does not delegate regulatory or spending authority over education to the feds? What if there is no such thing as "free" college? What if someone somewhere will need to pay for it?

What if all federal revenue is already committed to wealth transfers (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, welfare), interest payments on the federal government's debt (now north of $400 billion annually) and the Pentagon (which spends crazily so its budget won't be reduced in the future)? What if the Clinton "free" college deal would mean the feds would need to tax more or borrow more or both?

What if more taxation means less money for the productive aspects of society? What if more borrowing produces a decrease in the value of what you already own? What if a dollar spent by the feds produces far less wealth -- jobs, income, productivity -- than a dollar invested in the private sector? What if Clinton doesn't care because she prefers votes to economic productivity?

What if both Trump and Clinton believe they can use the federal government to bribe the poor with handouts, the middle class with tax breaks, the rich with bailouts and write-offs, and the states with block grants? What if Trump himself has benefited enormously from federal write-offs available only to the very rich?

What if neither talks about personal liberty in a free society? What if they both talk about the government's duty to keep us safe? What if neither talks about the government's first duty, which is to keep us free? What if neither believes that the government works for us? What if they both really believe that we work for the government?

What if Mark Twain was right when he said that the reason we get to vote is it doesn't make much difference?


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; hillaryrottenclinton; napolitano
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To: Kaslin

There are some really freakin’ weird articles coming out to his month.


101 posted on 10/06/2016 10:58:05 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)
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To: MNJohnnie

“And yes, the same rubber stamp Congress that gave O everything he wanted to avoid being called “Racists” is going to do everything Clinton demands to avoid being called “Sexist””

Actually, they’ll give Clinton everything she wants so they can keep breathing.


102 posted on 10/06/2016 11:00:27 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)
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To: Kaslin
What if FreeRepublic were to turn into a repository for every vile anti-Trump article known to every brain-damaged sphincter-sniffer on the planet?

Where do we go for some clean air now?

103 posted on 10/06/2016 11:02:43 AM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: ModelBreaker

Wrong but noce try, he says he wants to “REDUCE” the size and interference of government.


104 posted on 10/06/2016 11:03:07 AM PDT by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: Kaslin

What If the good judge took the time to compare the published policies of Trump and Clinton?

Maybe then, he’d be informed enough to not ask such stupid questions.


105 posted on 10/06/2016 11:06:35 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Know et al
I am sure you meant to ask: What if0bama had the best interest of the the United States at heart?

You mean like these>


106 posted on 10/06/2016 11:06:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: faithhopecharity

“Trump does appear to have leftist tendencies, yes”

Name said “leftist tendencies”, if you don’t mind.


107 posted on 10/06/2016 11:08:48 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Snowybear

One thing we know for sure Hillary hates us deplorables, that is, the hard working Americans who actually create and support the society on which she and her bloodsucking Kleptocrats feast. Trump on the other hand has worked shoulder to shoulder with construction crews and put his kids to work as bell hops. Yeah no difference between them - what a stupid article.


108 posted on 10/06/2016 11:09:57 AM PDT by oncebitten (This multidirectional comb-over is so complex that even engineers marvel at its structure.)
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To: Kaslin

What if the moon was an alien monitoring device
filled with automated planet-obliterating weapons?


109 posted on 10/06/2016 11:10:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (~Questionable Hillary thinks Putin made me post this!~)
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To: Kaslin

You need to get a grip, friend. That was way out of line.


110 posted on 10/06/2016 11:16:25 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Kaslin

I agree... I felt like Napolitano was setting up straw men when dealing with Trump


111 posted on 10/06/2016 11:24:36 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: ModelBreaker

Good point


112 posted on 10/06/2016 11:25:10 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: HangUpNow

I guess he likes being on Faux News


113 posted on 10/06/2016 11:26:00 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Jim Robinson

Is this really what we want on FreeRepublic?

Where are your moderators?


114 posted on 10/06/2016 11:26:08 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve got to admit I hate these lying, selfish, back-stabbing “conservatives” more than true believing leftists, who can at least be trusted not to fight frantically against the things they claim to believe. These NeverTrumpers prefer to let the country burn rather than be proved that their propaganda about Trump was wrong. It has zero to do with principles or honesty, and everything to do with saving their own positions of power within the “movement”—even though there will be no “movement” left after Hillary’s full amnesty for millions of new Dem voters.

The Supreme Court getting a leftwing super majority is just fine to this “Constitutional conservative” (what a joke). Remember Napolitano was the one on Fox News saying that he found he found Hillary Clinton to be “charming” after the debate. You see Napolitano’s only promoting this distorted propaganda on a supposedly conservative site, because the whole point is to get people to think that Hillary won’t really be that bad. After hearing Napolitano coo over Hillary on TV, I have no doubt that this agitprop of outright lies about many of Trump’s positions is only there to help Hillary get elected.


115 posted on 10/06/2016 11:30:11 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Nifster
If he's trying to pay his bills and loves the attention at FNC, he may have just killed the Golden Goose.

We ARE paying attention to any and all BS'ers who've misrepresented their supposed "conservative" bonafides. I'm pulling Judge Nap's cred-card.

116 posted on 10/06/2016 11:33:32 AM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: Kaslin

Zactly!


117 posted on 10/06/2016 11:33:49 AM PDT by Know et al ( Keep on Freepin'!!!)
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To: Alberta's Child

apparently NYC is a lost cause, yes

(possibly Staten Island might still be sane, but it can’t carry the rest of the town )

we are sure in deep dooodooo


118 posted on 10/06/2016 11:41:49 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Talisker

Only the ignorant do, and these are the same who voted for that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in 2008 and 2012


120 posted on 10/06/2016 11:45:09 AM PDT by Kaslin
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