Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest

AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

[LucyT]

Hawaii's former health director who died after a plane she was traveling in crashed into the ocean was wearing an infant life vest and the pilot didn't give a safety briefing before takeoff, according to details in a National Transportation Safety Board report.

An autopsy determined Loretta Fuddy died of an irregular heartbeat from hyperventilating after she exited the plane, which landed in choppy water off the island of Molokai. The pilot and seven other passengers on the 2013 Makani Kai Air flight survived.

Pilot Clyde Kawasaki reported to the NTSB that he heard a loud bang, followed by an immediate loss of engine power soon after the single-engine Cessna took off from Molokai, headed for Honolulu.

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[Fred Nerks]

from the Yamamoto report:

...I then saw Mark Miller the Kalaupapa administrator and asked if Loretta was ok -he said that they were still rescuing people and he did not k.now, he then later told me that she was ok and was being flown to Honolulu...

Fuddy was given the last rites by the priest and it was Mrs Briley (whose half inflated infant life jacket was cut from her because of her injuries,) was flown to hospital.

[4Zoltan]

“If you wish to say the NTSB, with its 10+ man-year, 2.4 calendar-year investigation was wrong on some point, you really should feel the responsibility to have some evidence!”

Do know what irony is?

You present no evidence. Present images that hide evidence. Present as facts things that are clearly wrong.

[rx]

If things happened as the HDOH Deputy Director said, "she was not breathing anymore" when he was still near her.

If one can believe the Medical Examiner, she died of a heart arrhythmia. The clear implication of that is, if Fuddy's no longer breathing, she's had her heart arrhythmia. One does not have a heart arrhythmia, stop breathing, then only expire an hour later when one is conveniently in proximity to a story-teller.

However, there are so many falsehoods and self-aggrandizing stories in this event that it's just laughable after a couple dozen or so of them, that anyone would still give them credence.

I don't know how they can sleep at night. Oh, yeah, I guess I can imagine.

[rx]

You've already disclosed how you'll play this all as a game in post #235: whatever we say must be true game." [looking at post 369, you said,] "It also looks like only the top cell is inflated. The bottom cell is flat, not inflated."

You present no evidence

My word, child!
Concrete evidence, of which everyone with eyes can see that I've provided plenty, means nothing to you. You'll just throw out contradictory statements and pretend they support your POV. As you've said, that's your game. It's your way of distracting others and pretending you have a riposte, when you clearly got bupkis.

Thus, no one need believe you.

[4Zoltan]

And you have disclosed the game that you are playing with this statement at #298

"6. "The hand" floats purposelessly through several frame. It physically cannot belong to anyone whose feet are on the floor. ..."

Did you chose that frame deliberately to deceive?

Had you chosen a frame just before the one you chose, you would have seen Yamamoto's leg right where you said it wasn't.

It makes one wonder if that was a deliberate attempt at deception or just incompetence.

[rx]

Mrs Briley (whose half inflated infant life jacket was cut from her because of her injuries,) was flown to hospital.

Not only do you feel the need to contradict the NTSB's lengthy investigation without any evidence, but you're fast and foot-loose enough so as to pretend you know the why of other people's thinking and motives, using that word... as if you knew... "because."

There's no evidence Marilyn Briley had on an infant life jacket beyond your sucking it out of your thumb. FH's saying he put life jackets on the older couple (which would have had to been directed at the Brileys since FH was himself already 70 years old), was shown to have "mis-rembered" that too, as neither Marilyn nor Bruce were wearing life jackets out of the cabin nor for many minutes thereafter.

There's Marilyn with no life jacket. (And Fuddy's there in the window doing something in Jake's seat of all places!)

...and there's Bruce, just beyond the pilot, sandy blonde hair to the left, floating on his back, carrying his life jacket, still in its plastic bag, at his chest? Maybe both he and FH were having trouble getting it open, eh?

Oops!   Say, now... what would that be just to the left of Bruce, behind his head?

And as far as wearing an infant life jacket, it needs to be said that Marilyn was wearing what gets the prize as the most Adult Life Jacket out there!

Somehow that nicely-arrayed NTSB picture of life jackets missed one, eh?

[butterdezillion]

Wow. Rx presents “no evidence”?

I guess it’s easy to see who’s the liar on this thread.

[butterdezillion]

lol. Yes, it looks VERY adult!

I wonder how she explains that one to her kids...

The posters here have studiously avoided that piece of evidence, I’ve noticed.

[Fred Nerks]

Oops! Say, now... what would that be just to the left of Bruce, behind his head?

It's a suitcase. Pardon me for assuming it came from the luggage compartment which was damaged/destroyed on impact and released it's various contents, some of which ended up floating about and washed up against the side of the fuselage, later.

You might consider keeping a more civil tongue in your mouth. We aren't doing anything but saving you from making a fool of yourself with dummies and submarines, for goodness sake.

As for Marilyn Briley 'wearing' a life-vest in that underwater shot, she's not wearing anything, she looks like it's wound around her thighs, it's way under the waterline.

I think what might need to be done, is someone in the US notify the relevant authorities there appears to have been an identification mistake of the two women who looked so much alike that their life-vests were incorrectly labelled, and let them decide if they wish to make corrections.

Or we will be here forever, wasting our time.

[rx]

You're forever trying to waste our time, FN (and some others), as attempt in post #471, by suggesting things about sump oil and a need to look at airplane infrastructure, while there are honest, forthright-mannered people here, who would follow the evidence, wherever it leads.

Sump oil doesn't come in twelve-foot long, green bubbles, and exhaust deflectors have nothing to do with anything that's remotely come up for discussion here. If you can't see that, you're to be pitied.

The lot of you clearly enjoy making up irrelevant stuff like suggesting the HDOH DD mistakenly identifying someone is material in this incident as you try to ignore, expunge or excuse the evidence that the NTSB said Ms Fuddy had on an infant life jacket that had only one cartridge expended.

That (false) evidence has implications right on down the line, as it was part of what the Medical Examiner (ME) used beyond anything she could see with her own eyes at autopsy to vacate entirely her, Cause of Death: drowning, pending toxicology results. Since that evidence was apparently false, perhaps it should change the ME's Report, as should several other false things about her report.

The HDOH DD said she quit breathing while she was still with him as if that were somehow a big event, even set next to the fact that a diver took her place by the time of the 8:27 mark in the NTSB video, as post #247 and #413 clearly shows. You guys are like the Arthur Conan Doyle, Dog That Didn't Bark! Your studious, joint silence on these issues is far too coincident to be random. Collectively, you're all telling us something. What could that be?

Before she was replaced, the HDOH DD had all his 8 compatriot plane occupants surrounding him, all within 15 yards. If he had any reason to call for help, surely it would have been as his Director was whisked out from under his nose as he was surrounded by those other occupants. But no, you don't even want to begin to go there? Why not?

That evidence, too, went into the ME's consideration of what happened to Fuddy in this incident. It, too, was clearly wrong. But you don't seem to care.   Or have you simply not yet been given your "marching orders?"

[WildHighlander57]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/posts?page=515#515

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/posts?page=516#516

And the labels got mismarked because the —ladies— got swapped; they put Briley near Yamamoto and he asked if she was OK, thinking she was Fuddy.

[rx]

There is no reason the USCG crew that had Marilyn Briley in their care would have come up with the Fuddy name, so as to mislabel any left-behind life jacket "Fuddy".

By contrast, the other helo, that actually carried Ms Fuddy, had her her identification card and one of the crew showed it to Bruce Briley, thus, both he and the USCG crew knew who they had in their helo, and it wasn't Bruce's wife.

Your conjectures are totally without support!

Regarding FH's statements about giving and inflating the Briley's their life jackets before they left the cabin, those are shown to be false by the visual evidence in post #526. Combined with the other false stories FH was known to have promulgated, see post #281, for example, FH's self-aggrandizing stories have zero credibility.

[Fred Nerks]

That doesn't fit the dummy and the submarine scenario and the cast of thousands...

remember, the closer you get to the target, the heavier the flak will be

[4Zoltan]

Yes, let's talk about lying.

Do you still insist in spite of the video evidence that the floating hand could not belong to any of the passengers?

Do you still insist in spite of the video evidence that the plane landed on a rocky outcrop?

Do you still insist in spite of the video evidence that Fuddy could have just stood up in the shallow water?

Who are the real liars here?

[WildHighlander57]

This is what happened before your sequence

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/posts?page=365#365

and mine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/posts?page=330#330

Puentes is sitting; look on the top of the seat back

This is the start of the sequence shown in post #365 and #330

[Fred Nerks]

You stick with your dummy and submarine scenario, and I’ll stick with my mislabelled life-vests, thank you.

[WildHighlander57]

Fred Nerks wrote:

"That doesn't fit the dummy and the submarine scenario and the cast of thousands...

remember, the closer you get to the target, the heavier the flak will be...."

A couple more pics

Pilot didn't use a vest; neither did the person to the back and rear of him

[Fred Nerks]

[WildHighlander57]

Some pics not seen yet; looks like Ms Fuddy had trouble exiting the plane.... note the angle of the door:

Could she have been given a whack on the head by the door coming down?

[Fred Nerks]

Not likely, if she had a head injury, they would have found it. Whoops! I forgot, she wasn’t autopsied, the dummy was. Loretta wasn’t injured or drowned, she’s ALIVE LIVING IN ARGENTINA!
In Hitler’s old house...