Posted on 05/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by bassmaner
I'll keep this vanity short ... Mods: please feel free to pull it if it's inappropriate.
Why have so many here on FR turned on Ted Cruz in such a vicious way?
We cheered when we first heard about Ted taking on the establishment in TX to win the primary in the race to fill Kay Bailey Hutchison's vacated Senate seat, in a bad year for the GOP
We cheered again when Ted exhorted us to 'Stand With Rand' when he offered public support for Rand Paul's filibuster over the NDAA
Once more, we cheered when he stood on the Senate floor and urged his colleagues to join him and use the power of the purse to kill Obamacare
We nodded our collective heads in approval when he openly and correctly called Mitch McConnell a liar
And we jumped for joy when he became the first GOPer to announce a presidential run!
So ... what happened? Yes, Trump announced. But at first, not too many people took him seriously. For the longest time, there seemed to be an unspoken pact between Trump and Cruz, where they occasionally said nice things about each other while bashing the other candidates.
But ever since the voting began and Trump turned on Cruz (starting with the Ben Carson imbroglio in Iowa), a large contingent of FReepers did the same and seem to be echoing RINOs like John Boehner and Peter King in their absolute abhorrence of Cruz.
Yes, we need to choose sides, but for God's sake, can't we send that kind of vitriol in the direction that it belongs, ie. Hildabeast and the 'Rat Party, and knock off the circular firing squad?
It’s not just a middle finger to Trump voters, it’s a middle finger to all voters.
I applaud you for asking - it’s not always easy to ask where we (or someone we support) went wrong.
Keep in mind I am not American, but I follow things very closely, maybe more so than many Americans. Here’s what I experienced....
I was a Cruz supporter when he first started out. I watched him and Trump fairly regularly. I started to get a little weirded out by his voice, his very odd way of speaking (I like plain people who just talk). He sounded very superior and arrogant. I started to think he was a little on the weird side, and I realized very quickly that the left would make him a laughing stock faster than you can say Seven Mountain Dominion.
What really made me think he was a phony, slimy weasel was what he did to Dr. Carson. When he tried to apologize to Dr. Carson, I thought that was unreal. I thought he should have dropped out of the race back then. He clearly orchestrated that whole mess, and if Dr. Carson forgave him for his LYING and cheating, well, he’s a better person than me, and INFINITELY better than Cruz. As if an apology would suffice when you stole votes from a good, honest person. Toss in the lying about the loans from Goldman Sachs, the Bush connections.....sneaky.
After that, every time I listened to him it was with my eyes opened, and now I think he’s a phony, slimy, lawyer/politician. I also think he’s unstable. I think he thinks that the presidency is HIS, and he’ll do whatever it takes to get there.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but he really gives me the creeps. Just look at the interview where 3 different interviewers got totally rattled and ticked off at him for his pompous way of NOT answering questions, or just going on and on and on and on, in a very rude and obnoxious way, driving them nuts (Chuck Todd, Megyn Kelly and Sean Hannity). He’s no debating champ - he’s just so freaking infuriating that everyone throws up their arms and leaves to get away from him.
I didn’t even pay attention to any of the gossip about affairs. He could be husband and father of the year - he’s still a weasel.
His repeated actions put his delegates in place in states that he lost is one of the most offensive things I have ever seen anyone do.
The man absolutely makes me sick as a result of this.
The Left, Media, GOPe, and Ted Cruz are the ones who are out of control with the lies and character assassination, not to mention Machiavellian tactics.
Ted Cruz has shown himself to be a naked opportunist who will say anything that's politically expedient, and has actually given validity to Donald Trump's "Lyin' Ted" label, which was initially not so effective.
Ted Cruz was my initial preference, but he alienated me by playing the race card on Donald Trump (for God's sake) and then, when the Chicago rally was shutdown by thugs, Cruz showed the same tendency to politicize things into outright smears. On top of that he showed no leadership qualities in that incident as well. There should have been unequivocal support for both the party and the frontrunner in the face of violent Left wing thuggery.
I lost enormous respect for the guy, and everything he's been doing since then has only cemented my opinion.
I don't care how much of a "Constitutional conservative" someone claims to be, Ted Cruz started looking and acting more and more like a stereotypical, slimy politician.
There's a lot that could be said, but anyone who is intellectually honest has been through the process at this point.
The point is, it's not simply that Ted Cruz hasn't been accepted by the GOP voters, in fact he has been positively rejected by them.
Donald Trump has received over 3 million votes than Ted Cruz.
The American people, the GOP voters, and the party elites all know exactly who deserves this nomination. And that's who's going to get it.
And it will not be Ted Cruz.
Vote Trump
Because he doesn’t know when to keep quiet.
This has been very disturbing. Personal battles between the candidates can only help Hillary. Personal battles here only damage this forum.
Look in the mirror
LOL.....nice take.
For me, it was simply a matter of getting to know him. He has made me realize that he is first and foremost a lawyer, and he seeks wins the way lawyers do—through clever manipulation of language rather than on any factual basis.
It does not matter that his “win” in CO was technically by the rules: it looked bad and it reinforced my opinion that lawyers do not care about the truth as much as being clever when it comes to winning. Not everything that is technically legal is right or moral. The fact that he used that “win” to paint Trump supporters as stupid and incompetent only made it worse.
I do not, and never have, gratuitously insulted someone just because I happen to support someone else—and I do not think that most of the Trump supporters here have done that to Cruz. I do, however, point out exactly what I see the issues are.
Cruz behaves the way I have seen scammers behave before—for instance, with his slogan “TrusTED.” If a person can’t convince me to trust him without telling me over and over, then he probably is NOT trustworthy.
The bottom line is, we do not need another lawyer president. There is no way to convince me that another lawyer is going to be any different than the lawyers we’ve already had as president. We need someone else... someone with executive experience.
Delusion is strong in this one.
And here I thought that was Jesus alone...
Why is Cruz still in the race when he has no voter approved path to the nomination?
Why has Cruz focused on grabbing delegates after the election rather than on grabbing voters before the election?
Why can’t Cruz answer a simple question about whether or not he’ll support Trump if he’s the nominee?
Answer those questions and you’ll have answered your own.
I pick: deranged
That's another one of his huge issues. At some point, gross, deliberate, repeated distortions cross a line and qualify as the outright lies that they are. Cruz crossed that line a long time ago.
Vote Trump
more like he “poses” as if he is fighting.
he gets nothing actually accomplished.
DITTO
I am a Cruz’er. However, I am interested in anyone who will beat Hillary. But the complete obnoxiousness of many Trumpsters here and elsewhere really disuade me from wanting to vote for him if he does get the nomination.
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: I didn’t turn on Ted Cruz; Ted Cruz turned on me.
I was never big on Cruz. Getting elected in Texas as a hard-core conservative is not that impressive; trying doing that in a blue or purple state and then I might get impressed. Then he proceeded to wage a series of battles the conclusion was already determined to be an “L”, and then castigate his fellow Senators for failing to go along with it. Stupid. Then he called McConnell a liar on the Senate floor, based on an alleged private conversation between the two of them, which to me make me look askance not at McConnell but at him. If he got snookered by McConnell then he should’ve shut up and learnt a lesson, not whine in front of everyone like a big cry baby.
Then he decides based on that record of complete and total failure as a Senator to run for President, even though he’s not eligible. Then his dismissal of the citizenship issue boiled my blood; it was worse than the worst Daily Kos dismissals of the Obama eligibility issue.
It wasn’t long before his claim to any kind of anti-establishment credibility was absolutely shredded by Neal Bush on his finance team, his wife’s partnership at Goldman Sachs, the Goldman/Citi loans, etc., etc, etc.
But his actions since being mathematically eliminated have just taken him down a road in my mind where he’s basically as bad if not worse than any Democrat. Everything that he’s done since that point has served no purpose other than self-aggrandizement at the cost of giving the election to Hillary. He’s dead to me.
I agree with you.
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