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Why has FR turned on Cruz?
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Posted on 05/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by bassmaner

I'll keep this vanity short ... Mods: please feel free to pull it if it's inappropriate.

Why have so many here on FR turned on Ted Cruz in such a vicious way?

We cheered when we first heard about Ted taking on the establishment in TX to win the primary in the race to fill Kay Bailey Hutchison's vacated Senate seat, in a bad year for the GOP

We cheered again when Ted exhorted us to 'Stand With Rand' when he offered public support for Rand Paul's filibuster over the NDAA

Once more, we cheered when he stood on the Senate floor and urged his colleagues to join him and use the power of the purse to kill Obamacare

We nodded our collective heads in approval when he openly and correctly called Mitch McConnell a liar

And we jumped for joy when he became the first GOPer to announce a presidential run!

So ... what happened? Yes, Trump announced. But at first, not too many people took him seriously. For the longest time, there seemed to be an unspoken pact between Trump and Cruz, where they occasionally said nice things about each other while bashing the other candidates.

But ever since the voting began and Trump turned on Cruz (starting with the Ben Carson imbroglio in Iowa), a large contingent of FReepers did the same and seem to be echoing RINOs like John Boehner and Peter King in their absolute abhorrence of Cruz.

Yes, we need to choose sides, but for God's sake, can't we send that kind of vitriol in the direction that it belongs, ie. Hildabeast and the 'Rat Party, and knock off the circular firing squad?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016rncconvention; 2manytrolls; astroturf; circularfiringsquad; cruz; hypocrite; ibtz; ntsa; trump; trumprepublic; vanity
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To: Roos_Girl

And yet you can’t directly quote the post or any part thereof where I said anything amiss. Your accusations against me are baseless.


401 posted on 05/03/2016 4:28:20 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

You are absurd. All of your post 385 is amiss because, for the about 4th time I have to point out, you are failing to see that it is not only the Cruz supporters.


402 posted on 05/03/2016 5:02:22 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

Being absurd


403 posted on 05/03/2016 5:17:00 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

I can only post honestly about what I have personally observed. I did that, and it sent you into false accusation overdrive. Sad to see.


404 posted on 05/03/2016 5:54:15 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: bassmaner

For me, it was the debate after Iowa when Carson held Cruz’ feet to the fire over the rumor he was dropping out. Cruz said he didn’t know the truth until 9:30 PM, but Carson said his team tweeted out a denial at 6:30 PM. So either Cruz’ staff was incompetent or Cruz is a liar. After that, I didn’t trust him.

I got on the Trump train in October but Cruz was a close second because I wasn’t sure Trump would survive to the end. After the Carson debacle, Cruz lost all of my respect...and my vote.


405 posted on 05/03/2016 6:00:14 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Sure, that’s exactly what happened. Of course, you were given a link so you could personally observe what I was referring to, but horses, water and all that. Dishonest to the end. Good evening, sir.


406 posted on 05/03/2016 6:01:28 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

I have never said you didn’t see what you posted about. Not once. This temper tantrum is baseless. I posted what I observed, you did likewise...and then you went berserk. Not cool.


407 posted on 05/03/2016 6:04:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Not what happened. Whatev.


408 posted on 05/03/2016 6:10:04 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl

Lol. So you posted what I saw and I posted what you saw?

This exchange stopped being rational a dozen or most posts ago.


409 posted on 05/03/2016 6:13:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Like I said, whatev. Glad Cruz is finally out of it so maybe all the nonsense will go back tonjust regular FR nonsense and not Trump v Cruz nonsense.


410 posted on 05/03/2016 6:17:18 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Marie

I want to extend my deepest sympathies for your loss.

I don’t know what else I could possibly say, just know that if I could help in anyway, I would.


411 posted on 05/03/2016 10:33:47 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Cruz - the Charlie Sheen of politics - 'winning')
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To: txrefugee

Exactly the post I expected to read. Yea tx, you have it all figured out, we’re all dems here!

How silly


412 posted on 05/03/2016 10:35:35 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Cruz - the Charlie Sheen of politics - 'winning')
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To: Windflier

yep...ya got me....would have been much better...”beyond dead...composTed....”


413 posted on 05/04/2016 8:31:15 AM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: kralcmot

Someone in the Cruz campaign should have had the foresight to realize how easily the ‘TrusTed’ meme could be turned around on Cruz.

That no one did, speaks to how unprepared Ted was for all of this.


414 posted on 05/04/2016 8:49:29 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: SIDENET

That sums it up for me. I didn’t know anything about Cruz BUT my BS meter went off immediately. There was something smarmy about him. It is visceral. His looks (tho not his fault) didnt help. I also had a big problem with a Hispanic Presidential candidate at a time we are being invaded by Hispanic illegals felt unwise. When the “sent by God” anointed savior stuff began my alarms went off. Too much like the “The One” hosannas for Obama. He might not have started it but he still doesn’t mind using it. In his last speech he STILL seems to have a messianic complex. Being a lawyer and career politician was enough to overcome. Slick “I’m really the winner and your destined leader” pontificating made him unthinkable . I’m not totally thrilled with Trumps personality but we don’t have a Reagan to choose and Hillary must not enter the White House. Other than Trump I’m for a military coup. I’m that disgusted...and so are millions of others.


415 posted on 05/10/2016 8:45:03 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: bassmaner

If memory serves, the bad blood between CRuz and Trump began when a hidden video was exposed showing CRuz badmouthing Trump at a private fundraiser.

I also think that it is Trumps research that exposed that and that also exposed Rafael Cruzs history with Lee Harvey Oswald.


416 posted on 05/10/2016 8:53:01 AM PDT by uncitizen (PST! Patriots Support Trump - Join Today)
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To: ladyrustic

Sixth sense...thank you. As a Senator from Texas what has he done to halt Mexification?? He couldn’t stop the invasion alone but has he called for a Wall..a secure border? No. Has he been in the trenches FIGHTING against the illegals pouring into Texas from the beginning? Would Hispanics choose him Because he is Hispanic? Of course. So he can’t oppose the invasion. That is the most important thing for me. Stop the invasion. Deport ALL illegals. I dont care how ugly it has to get.Enough!


417 posted on 05/10/2016 9:04:38 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: bassmaner

I am not opposed to Cruz. I do not hate Cruz.

I support him for senator, supreme court, vp, you name it.

But, I switched to Trump.

I want the best for Cruz, and I consider him to be as conservative as anyone else out there.

We should NOT be injuring ANY of our conservatives in the US Senate in particular. We might lose the Senate. We need every one of them we can get.


418 posted on 05/10/2016 9:06:40 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: bassmaner; All

I guess after last night I have my answer to the question in the title of this thread that was posted back in early May. What a disappointment.


419 posted on 07/21/2016 11:51:51 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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