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1 posted on 03/21/2016 8:45:16 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

celts, irish, ping..that time of year...


2 posted on 03/21/2016 8:45:52 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria
The Celts settled in areas called Galatia by the Romans, with each area having a different spelling of the word "Galatia."

They came from an area known as Galatia along the Po River which is in the area of Poland. They traveled a lot and set up roots in not just Ireland but also NW Spain and Turkey.

The Letter of St. Paul to the Galatians is the letter to the Celts in Turkey.

According to anthropologists who have studied them, the Celts in Ireland are the closest we have today of the original Celts.

3 posted on 03/21/2016 8:52:24 AM PDT by Slyfox (Donald Trump's First Principle is the Art of the Deal)
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To: Theoria

Leave it to the Irish to be buried beneath a pub!


4 posted on 03/21/2016 8:52:39 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (What one is different: T.Rex, T.Rump, T.Rash, T.Cruz?)
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5 posted on 03/21/2016 8:53:08 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: Theoria

Irish archeological find under a pub. Gotta love it.


6 posted on 03/21/2016 8:54:16 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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To: Theoria

Per the article, JRR Tolkien seems to have been well ahead of the curve on this. Smart man.


7 posted on 03/21/2016 8:56:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking, but I know what I'm thinking.)
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To: Theoria
I read an interesting article -- I can't remember the numbers, but some large number of people in the British Isles believe themselves to have "Viking" blood, but DNA testing shows otherwise, and in reality a fairly small portion of the population can actually lay claim to Danish/Norse DNA.

My people came from Ireland (specifically a region that was heavily raided and invaded by Vikings), but a couple family members have done a few of those DNA tests over the last few years, and the tests consistently show a strong amount of Scandanavian. A couple of the tests narrowed it down specifically to Norwegian (not sure how that works, but I digress).

For those not in the know, generally speaking in the Viking Age the Danes invaded England and the Norwegians invaded Ireland.

It's not a slamdunk (I suppose a devilishly handsome Norwegian fisherman could have washed up in my ancestral village anytime between the Viking age and the early 1800's and added some Norwegian to my line), but considering that my people came from a region that saw strong Norse influence, I cherish the idea that I am part "Viking."

8 posted on 03/21/2016 8:58:59 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Theoria

I’ve known for sometime that the Irish DNA is closet to the Basque people (a distinct culture and DNA unto itself in Northern Spain/Southern France) as is the language structure. This arena is an exciting area that more will continue to unfold. Thanks so much for posting!!


11 posted on 03/21/2016 9:01:47 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Theoria

Yet the bones discovered were not of Celtic origin ? So what were they if not Celtic ?


14 posted on 03/21/2016 9:07:22 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Theoria

I’m not sure any of that is a real revelation. Traditionally, Ireland went through many different people’s moving in, in legend, Fir bolg, later Tuatha denann, later Milesian Celts.

The earliest inhabitants of western Europe are probably who the Irish are most genetically related to, like people in Basque/Spain. The fringe of Europe having slightly different (older) genetics than central or Eastern Europe shouldn’t be surprising, if you see where people migrate from.

Culture and language do not equal genetics. Genetically, the Celts were a mixed bag. Like many times in history, a ruling group could take over an area and impose their culture, yet the main underlying genetics was not changes.

There are exceptions. For example, the conquest of China resulted in the rulers becoming culturally Chinese. In Britain, the Germanic invaders significantly dented the genetics of the Britons that lived there.


15 posted on 03/21/2016 9:09:50 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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Okay, so they’re not Celts. What are they? I’m not about to click to the Washington Post to find out.


20 posted on 03/21/2016 9:25:59 AM PDT by IronJack
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The Irish come from Europe?

Impossible.

My wife assures me the Irish came straight from heaven.


21 posted on 03/21/2016 9:31:39 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Theoria

the bones were of ship wrecked Phoenicians and not native Irishmen


27 posted on 03/21/2016 10:39:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: Theoria

Wot? Wot do you mean? African bones or European bones?


32 posted on 03/21/2016 11:08:30 AM PDT by null and void (This is "They live", and most people would rather fight you than put on the glasses...)
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To: Theoria; SunkenCiv

“Quiet lads. As soon as the bar closes, we’ll finish our wee dig into the barrel room above.”


33 posted on 03/21/2016 11:12:59 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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36 posted on 03/21/2016 12:15:41 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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Language and genetics are not identical. Just look at the people who speak English today. Or who spoke Latin in the 200’s. Check out YouTube about the Armenians and their genetics. These people represent the westernmost edge of Indo-European migrants OR perhaps they werepre-Info-European like the Basques. Besides,who knows what language they did speak?


37 posted on 03/21/2016 12:35:19 PM PDT by ZULU (Trump is the answer. The Establishment is the problem.)
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To: Theoria

Maybe three visiting distant relatives :o%


46 posted on 03/22/2016 5:52:12 PM PDT by chit*chat
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