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VIDEO UNEARTHED=> Pastor Calls for Execution of Gays – Then Introduces Ted Cruz at Conference
GP ^ | 03/14/16 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/14/2016 6:06:43 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

i don’t see anything in the article where the Pastor calls for any executions. The headline is a lie.


81 posted on 03/14/2016 7:22:47 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Enlightened1

I don’t think Cruz shares Swanson’s views (after all he has solicited money from big time gay marriage proponents). However, he seems to have very poor judgement regarding the people he associates with: Glenn Beck, Chad Sweet, Jeff Roe, Michael Chertoff, etc. A voter might question that judgement based on the Reagan era principle that “people are policy”.


82 posted on 03/14/2016 7:23:21 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Gaffer

Of course he heard and understood it. This isn’t the first time he’s stood on stage with a religious nut. Seven Mountains Dominionism is a scary, theocratic bunch of nonsense.


83 posted on 03/14/2016 7:23:25 AM PDT by Charlie Browns Gun
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To: Boomer One

No, they simply dislike him because he’s such a hateful person.


84 posted on 03/14/2016 7:23:25 AM PDT by Charlie Browns Gun
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To: Enlightened1

He didn’t call for their death, he read a verse that basically says even knowing God’s penalty, ultimate eternal death, they broke God’s law anyway and gave approval to others who practiced the same things. And by the way, it’s not just homosexuality in view here, but also those “filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”

It’s sad day when a Bible verse can’t be read in public. Swanson is a Presbyterian, I’m a Sovereign Grace Baptist, so we often often agree, but sometimes we disagree. I’ve heard him preach and speak dozens of times via sermon audio.com. He’s an earnest Christian brother, zealous for the cause of Christ, not a nut.

Trump supporters better be careful here, because some of the true nuts of evangelicalism are backing Trump, people such as Paula White and Kenneth Copeland. Trump met and prayed with them. They even laid hands on him. I’m uncomfortable with some of those Cruz and his father associate with, but Trump has associated with much worse, the grifting word faith heresy types. I promise you don’t want their words being associated with Trump.


85 posted on 03/14/2016 7:25:00 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: AppyPappy
That’s because it is not my place to inflict those views on society. I don’t want anti-theists inflicting their bile on society either.

You would be shocked at the Biblical and theological references in the books.

I don't understand what you're saying in the first paragraph. In the second, you're absolutely right about the Biblical and theological references. Whoever wrote the books was incredibly well-read, witty, and evil.

From the interviews she has given and that last book she published, I'm not at all confident the Rowling woman wrote the Harry Potter books. She doesn't seem that smart or even particularly verbal, and she doesn't seem to have the background. Looking at her bio, I don't see how books that long and complex could have been written by anyone in that short a span of time. They seem like the work of an older, poofy, sarcastic male with a long British academic history and a lot of time on his hands. The whole thing is odd.

86 posted on 03/14/2016 7:25:21 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Enlightened1

As you say, this video is edited, and even in the video they admit to the Swanson speech and the Cruz appearance being two different times. What people miss about the Swanson speech, and what’s wrong about the OP headline, is that Swanson is not arguing that Christians should harm gays, but that God views homosexuality as worthy of death, which He does. This speech is about the religious freedom to teach what the Bible teaches without fear of “hate speech” charges. In that context, Swanson is not saying anything Ted would or should be ashamed of. But a well edited tape and an uncomprehending audience make for great leftist propaganda. That should not surprise or discourage anyone who supports Cruz. It’s just the world in which we now live, and to survive in it we must adapt, by fighting the lies, not caving in to them.

Peace,

SR


87 posted on 03/14/2016 7:25:44 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Enlightened1

Nope it is not. You can make assumptions, but you cannot prove those assumptions to be true or false. This is exactly how the little game of passing a sentence from person to person around a circle ends up with the ending sentence having no resemblance to the first. Even from the bible perspective- Saying that someone deserves something and actually calling for them to get what they deserve are two different things entirely. If humanity got what it deserved then there would be nothing left of it.


88 posted on 03/14/2016 7:26:13 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Fresh Wind
Romans 3:19
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
89 posted on 03/14/2016 7:31:19 AM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Enlightened1

Obviously cut and edited. Yes Kevin Swanson is a certified nut.

I don’t care for Cruz, but this is B.S. and should not be used against him.
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But it will. One of the reasons he’s never going to be electable.


90 posted on 03/14/2016 7:35:40 AM PDT by QuigleyDU
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To: Gaffer

Ted has failed to make “good choices” on a number of occasions during this campaign, which is why I’m no longer a Cruz supporter. The fact that he is now obviously supported by the Bush family just demonstrates the old adage that Ted is clearly “educated well beyond his intelligence”.


91 posted on 03/14/2016 7:36:00 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Eddie01
Do not turn on the media today. Every statement is a lie.

You've got that right. I've had to train myself to be immediately skeptical of ANYTHING the media says or "reports" over the past ten or more years. THEY hold the full burden to prove my skepticism wrong, but they never do. Perhaps the basic facts are somewhat correct, but their spin makes everything they say a lie.

92 posted on 03/14/2016 7:44:55 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Enlightened1
We are ALL worthy of death, which the pastor probably understands but the listeners may not. Paul is referring to our sinful states without Christ, not calling for the execution of sinners.

If you're going to misinterpret the Bible this way, Paul would be calling for the execution of EVERYBODY, not just gays.

Now I'm understanding why Cruz calls you "low information voters."

93 posted on 03/14/2016 7:55:45 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama - the AIDS virus for the American body politic.)
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To: Enlightened1
When you say someone is “worthy of death”. That’s calling for them to be killed. You can say it’s not, but that’s debatable that most people would disagree with you about.

That is gross ignorance on your part...ignorance of Biblical scripture and ignorance of Ted Cruz. You are the exact opposite of your handle.

94 posted on 03/14/2016 7:59:09 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama - the AIDS virus for the American body politic.)
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To: Enlightened1
That’s calling for them to be killed.

You can say it’s not, but that’s debatable that most people would disagree with you about.

Then most people would be Biblically illiterate.

95 posted on 03/14/2016 8:25:19 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Theophilus

So, you don’t want to answer the question. I expected that.


96 posted on 03/14/2016 8:30:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Enlightened1

Referencing a Bible verse is calling for their execution? What horsecrap is this?


97 posted on 03/14/2016 8:51:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Enlightened1

When you say someone is “worthy of death”.


The Bible says every human being is worthy of death. Haven’t you read the Book?


98 posted on 03/14/2016 8:52:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Enlightened1

Amazing how many Trump seminar posters are on this forum. I wonder how much they are paid.


99 posted on 03/14/2016 9:07:45 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: DiogenesLamp

No need to even pull out the fancy latin. Every kid knows “two wrongs don’t make a right”.


100 posted on 03/14/2016 9:17:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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