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Posted on 02/28/2016 10:38:01 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
To my friends supporting Donald Trump:
The Trump coalition is broad and complicated, but I believe many Trump fans are well-meaning. I have spoken at length with many of you, both inside and outside Nebraska. You are rightly worried about our national direction. You ache about a crony-capitalist leadership class that is not urgent about tackling our crises. You are right to be angry.
I'm as frustrated and saddened as you are about what's happening to our country. But I cannot support Donald Trump.
Please understand: I'm not an establishment Republican, and I will never support Hillary Clinton. I'm a movement conservative who was elected over the objections of the GOP establishment. My current answer for who I would support in a hypothetical matchup between Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton is: Neither of them. I sincerely hope we select one of the other GOP candidates, but if Donald Trump ends up as the GOP nominee, conservatives will need to find a third option.
Mr. Trump's relentless focus is on dividing Americans, and on tearing down rather than building back up this glorious nation. Much like President Obama, he displays essentially no understanding of the fact that, in the American system, we have a constitutional system of checks and balances, with three separate but co-equal branches of government. And the task of public officials is to be public "servants." The law is king, and the people are boss. But have you noticed how Mr. Trump uses the word "Reign" - like he thinks he's running for King? It's creepy, actually. Nebraskans are not looking for a king. We yearn instead for the recovery of a Constitutional Republic.
At this point in Nebraska discussions, many of you have immediately gotten practical: "Okay, fine, you think there are better choices than Trump. But you would certainly still vote for Trump over Clinton in a general election, right?"
Before I explain why my answer is "Neither of them," let me correct some nonsense you might have heard on the internet of late.
WHY I RAN FOR SENATE
***No, I'm not a career politician. (I had never run for anything until being elected to the U.S. Senate fifteen months ago, and I ran precisely because I actually want to make America great again.)
***No, I'm not a lawyer who has never created a job. (I was a business guy before becoming a college president in my hometown.)
***No, I'm not part of the Establishment. (Sheesh, I had attack ads by the lobbyist class run against me while I was on a bus tour doing 16 months of townhalls across Nebraska. Why? Precisely because I was not the preferred candidate of Washington.)
***No, I'm not concerned about political job security. (The very first thing I did upon being sworn in in January 2015 was to introduce a constitutional amendment for term limits - this didn’t exactly endear me to my new colleagues.)
***No, I'm not for open borders. (The very first official trip I took in the Senate was to observe and condemn how laughably porous the Texas/Mexican border is. See 70 tweets from @bensasse in February 2015.)
***No, I'm not a "squishy," feel-good, grow-government moderate. (I have the 4th most-conservative voting record in the Senate: Conservative Review Member Profile: Ben Sasse
Heritage Action Scorecare - 95%)
In my very first speech to the Senate, I told my colleagues that "The people despise us all." This institution needs to get to work, not on the lobbyists' priorities, but on the people's: Source
Now, to the question at hand: Will I pledge to vote for just any "Republican" nominee over Hillary Clinton?
Let's begin by rejecting naive purists: Politics has no angels. Politics is not about creating heaven on earth. Politics is simply about preserving a framework for ordered liberty - so that free people can find meaning and happiness not in politics but in their families, their neighborhoods, their work.
POLITICAL PARTIES
Now, let's talk about political parties: parties are just tools to enact the things that we believe. Political parties are not families; they are not religions; they are not nations - they are often not even on the level of sports loyalties. They are just tools. I was not born Republican. I chose this party, for as long as it is useful.
If our Party is no longer working for the things we believe in - like defending the sanctity of life, stopping ObamaCare, protecting the Second Amendment, etc. - then people of good conscience should stop supporting that party until it is reformed.
VOTING
Now, let's talk about voting: Voting is usually just about choosing the lesser evil of the most viable candidates.
"Usually.." But not always. Certain moments are larger. They cause us to explicitly ask: Who are we as a people? What does the way we vote here say about our shared identity? What is actually the president’s job?
THE PRESIDENT'S CORE CALLING
The president's job is not about just mindlessly shouting the word "strong" - as if Vladimir Putin, who has been strongly bombing civilian populations in Syria the last month, is somehow a model for the American presidency. No, the president's core calling is to "Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution."
Before we ever get into any technical policy fights - about pipelines, or marginal tax rates, or term limits, or Medicare reimbursement codes - America is first and fundamentally about a shared Constitutional creed. America is exceptional, because she is at her heart a big, bold truth claim about human dignity, natural rights, and self-control - and therefore necessarily about limited rather than limitless government.
THE MEANING OF AMERICA
America is the most exceptional nation in the history of the world because our Constitution is the best political document that's ever been written. It said something different than almost any other government had said before: Most governments before said that might makes right, that government decides what our rights are and that the people are just dependent subjects. Our Founders said that God gives us rights by nature, and that government is not the author or source of our rights. Government is just our shared project to secure those rights.
Government exists only because the world is fallen, and some people want to take your property, your liberty, and your life. Government is tasked with securing a framework for ordered liberty where "we the people" can in our communities voluntarily build something great together for our kids and grandkids. That's America. Freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of association, freedom of speech - the First Amendment is the heartbeat of the American Constitution, of the American idea itself.
WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO MR. TRUMP?
So let me ask you: Do you believe the beating heart of Mr. Trump's candidacy has been a defense of the Constitution? Do you believe it's been an impassioned defense of the First Amendment - or an attack on it?
Which of the following quotes give you great comfort that he's in love with the First Amendment, that he is committed to defending the Constitution, that he believes in executive restraint, that he understands servant leadership?
Statements from Trump:
***"We’re going to open up libel laws and we're going to have people sue you like you’ve never got sued before."
***"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. They were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak..."
***Putin, who has killed journalists and is pillaging Ukraine, is a great leader.
***The editor of National Review "should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him."
***On whether he will use executive orders to end-run Congress, as President Obama has illegally done: "I won't refuse it. I'm going to do a lot of things." "I mean, he's led the way, to be honest with you."
***"Sixty-eight percent would not leave under any circumstance. I think that means murder. It think it means anything."
***On the internet: "I would certainly be open to closing areas" of it.
***His lawyers to people selling anti-Trump t-shirts: "Mr. Trump considers this to be a very serious matter and has authorized our legal team to take all necessary and appropriate actions to bring an immediate halt..."
***Similar threatening legal letters to competing campaigns running ads about his record.
And on it goes…
IF MR. TRUMP BECOMES THE NOMINEE...
Given what we know about him today, here's where I'm at: If Donald Trump becomes the Republican nominee, my expectation is that I will look for some third candidate - a conservative option, a Constitutionalist.
I do not claim to speak for a movement, but I suspect I am far from alone. After listening to Nebraskans in recent weeks, and talking to a great many people who take oaths seriously, I think many are in the same place. I believe a sizable share of Christians - who regard threats against religious liberty as arguably the greatest crisis of our time - are unwilling to support any candidate who does not make a full-throated defense of the First Amendment a first commitment of their candidacy.
Conservatives understand that all men are created equal and made in the image of God, but also that government must be limited so that fallen men do not wield too much power. A presidential candidate who boasts about what he'll do during his "reign" and refuses to condemn the KKK cannot lead a conservative movement in America.
TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT
Thank you for listening. While I recognize that we disagree about how to make America great again, we agree that this should be our goal. We need more people engaged in the civic life of our country—not fewer. I genuinely appreciate how much many of you care about this country, and that you are demanding something different from Washington. I’m going to keep doing the same thing.
But I can’t support Donald Trump.
Humbly,
Ben Sasse
Nebraska
Trump’s not perfect so let’s let Hillary Clinton win the election.
Screw that.
It’s over.
I don’t think Trump is the right guy.
But he is going to be the candidate.
If nothing else it will make the debate interesting.
Non eligible, not Natural Born Citizens, Cubans, Chihuahua Prespiration Marko and Pinocchio Desperation Ted attacking Big Donald at CNN freestyle match.
You said...
“One of the few good thing that could come from a Jesse Ventura Donald Trump win in Nov. is we can spend 4 years asking the question of the T-Bots...What Were You Thinking”
It’ll be worse than that.
Actually, I think they’ll stick with him no matter what. Their dedication is too deep to ever abandon him no matter what he does. And any failures they’ll blame on everyone else. Similar to the Ferguson rioters that when, despite the evidence that the Gentle Giant was not shot in the back while having his hands up begging the cop not to shoot, they stuck with that narrative, anyways. Why? Because they were committed to it despite the evidence to the contrary. That’s what your seeing with the Trump supporters. Not all. But a good number of them
The voice of yet another GOPe RINO. If our guy wins hold your nose and vote for him, if your guy wins screw you I’m staying home.
Okay we can play too, if the GOPe scams the primary we will stay home too.
and where was trump during those years...helping the GOPe...creating the environment where corker/alexander/mconnell/schumer got things done
And was career politican Ted Cruz in those years? Writing talking points for George W. Bush.
This fake “Constitutionalist” TPP loving GOP stooge Sasse is going to run 3rd party. And Cincinatus’ Wife is going to support him when he does it.
Thanks for posting this today. This confirms the rumors we had been hearing, that Mitch McConnell had been telling Republican Senators that there was no expectation of them to support their party's nominee if he turns out to be someone other than who Mitch (fill in the sobriquet here) wanted.
God damn him, Mitch McConnell, to hell for supporting Hillary Clinton over his own party's nominee apparent, and Ben Sasse too for playing ball with him and demonstrating to all what a typical craven, venal, ambitious Republican senator looks like.
The two of them, Mitch and Ben Sasse, by this brazen gambit to split the Republican vote, are now supporting a woman who is (as all of us who have paid attention to what happened at Benghazi) guilty of treason and murder. What does that make them?
This thread reads like one from 2008 over at the DU, in support of Obama.
I saw a lot of pictures in 2008 that showed Obama had a lot of support. That doesn’t mean he was a good candidate TO support.
I never said the number of people following a candidate automatically translates into a good candidate. LOL!
I said he’s probably going to win based on numbers we are seeing at all the rallies combined.
Nevertheless, all the people that attack Trump don’t really attack him for his positions. Its always something like they don’t trust him or an exchange he had with someone. Again for the most part it’s never about policy.
I get how people can have concerns with his past. Although you have to remember he was a businessman in a liberal city and not politician. So Trump had to play the game. I get that, and know many people in that situation. If Trump would have said the things back then that he says today, then Trump would have been booted out of New York.
The people who have personally known him for years say this is the real Donald Trump and not the guy you saw in the media.
Trump admits he has no need to ask for forgiveness. What Christian do you know, that believes that? Can one honestly be a Christian and never ask for forgiveness or see the need to?
That in and of itself, gives me great pause about Trump. But there are many things about the man, his lack of character, his bravado, his brash personality, as a person, he does not seem like a good person, IMO.
But speaking to his politics, I don’t believe he’s a Conservative. Not by the standards I hold. He never speaks of the Constitution, the Constitutional process, or even about the limits that the federal government should be operating on. Everything Trump proposes, required MORE government, BIGGER over reach and MORE involvement into our lives. And what’s worse, is he has no problem using EO’s. He has already come out and said Obama’s actually opened the door and he (Trump) will do what HE thinks needs to be done with them. And his latest statements about punishing those who speak “negatively”, will need to be sued for libel, and have their money taken away. Who does that? He’s completely ignoring the 1st amendment and our God given right to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom from the govt establishing a religion or prohibiting us from practicing ours, freedom to assemble peacefully and freedom to petition the government for a redress of grievances. He wants to usurp that, and as leader of the govt, decide what is negative and what is not, and then punish accordingly.
If people don’t know their history, they can accept Trump by his rhetoric and catchy slogans. If people don’t understand that Trump is telling us what he plans, just like Obama did, and if people don’t listen, wake up and really think hard about the kind of man that will take charge of this country, it’ll either be a HUGE mistake and America will be lost, or it’ll be the best thing we can do, to turn America around.
For me, there’s only one choice, because I solidly believe in the Constitution and the Bible. Those are the ONLY solutions to fix what is wrong with our country. And there is no Making America Great again, without understanding what made it GOOD to begin with. We have to get back to THAT, first. And there’s only ONE MAN who has a proven consistent record of upholding and fighting (many times alone) for the Constitution and who also appreciates Biblical values as a core for what this nation was founded on (and needs to get back to). That man is Ted Cruz.
Well, maybe not all of us, of course, such as your ilk. But 75% is pretty darn united. That's what the FR caucus indicates. There will always be litmus-test types who refuse to see the light even when it's shining so bright that they're getting sunburned.
So thanks for reminding us all that Trump is enjoying 75% support on this conservative web site, including, at least marginally, that of the site's owner.
Yep. 3 out of every 4 FR members are for Trump. Quite a "divider" he is...
Why does Cruz never mentions this? How come Jeb never mentioned that Ted Cruz worked for his brother? Moreover, Cruz and his dirty tricks is not very Christian that he claims to be.
As for Trump's relationship with God. That's between Donald Trump and God.
Yes Trump is not perfect, but I strongly disagree with what you said. Case in point Common Core. Trump wants to take education out of the bureaucrats in Washington DC, and make it locally. You know, the way it was when we were #1 in the world in education vs. today at #30 and falling. How is that growing government by making it locally? Trump wants to secure the border. Every POTUS did that up until Obama. That's the #1 duty of the government and they are not doing that. It's absolutely horrible that's not taking place. Yet you call that growing the government??? Trump wants to end the rigged trade deals where WE PAY TARIFFS TO CHINA, and they do not. Oh and that is what Cruz's wife helped arrange.
You are the first “conservative” to get upset about opening up the MSM to libel lawsuits for lying to the public. LOL! Hey it's bearing false witness since you say you are Christian. For the record I'm doubtful although I'm not going to argue with you. Anyhow, free political speech from going to jail or prison. At a work place you just can't say what you want and expect NOT to get fired from the business on the grounds of free speech. Free Speech is political speak that protects people from going to jail or prison by the Feds or any other type of government. However, you are liable if you are caught lying or misrepresenting someone. Certainly in the public domain. The MSM is notorious for always lying about people they do not like. It's why they lost so much credibility.
So where did Trump say he wanted to grow the bureaucracy? What securing the border? I'm okay with that. The military I'm okay with that.
I am not your enemy, nor are many people you think are. The RATS are the enemy. I refuse to take their bait.
Cruz is a Conservative he wouldn’t go left to get sanders voters. Trump is no Conservative and has no problems going left to get sanders voters
So you will hold trump to the same standard you hold Cruz too? no you’ll vote for trump knowing he helped created the corrupt cartel which hindered Consetvatives
Trump was never a Conservative so what you wrote doesnt apply to him.
Trump is a businessman and is running for president to enrich his business. Trump has always looked for ways to enrich his business which is why he helped leftists out by donating to them
So you will hold trump to the same standard you hold Cruz too? no you’ll vote for trump knowing he helped created the corrupt cartel which hindered Consetvatives
Was Trump “helping to create the corrupt cartel” when he donated thousands to TED CRUZ?
Just keep convincing yourself of that, good luck with your life.
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