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Controversial law charges people with murder for death at others' hand
Chicago Tribune ^ | 2-19-2016 | Duaa Eldeib

Posted on 02/20/2016 6:21:39 AM PST by Citizen Zed

The three teens knew the owner of the house they planned to burglarize that night in 2008 was in the hospital. They had not anticipated that his friend was asleep inside. Awakened by the breaking glass and fearful for his life, the man grabbed a gun from a dresser drawer. When one of the teens opened the bedroom door, the man fired.

The youngest of the three intruders, a slight 14-year-old in a red hoodie named Travis Castle, was killed.

Doyle, then 15, was charged with murder in his friend's death.

Doyle did not pull the trigger and was not even armed. But under a controversial Illinois law known as the felony murder rule, suspects can face murder charges if someone dies during the commission of certain felonies — even if the suspect in the underlying crime does not have a murder weapon or was not immediately present when the death occurred.

In Chicago and elsewhere, the law also has been used to charge crime suspects with murder when a fellow suspect is shot and killed by police.

The felony murder rule, particularly as applied to minors, has no shortage of critics.

(Excerpt) Read more at my.chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: chicago; crime; felony; felonymurder; felonymurderrule; justindoyle; murder; traviscastle
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Interesting.
1 posted on 02/20/2016 6:21:39 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

The felony murder rule is basic stuff.

I’ve never heard of it being “controversial” in any way.


2 posted on 02/20/2016 6:24:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I have no problem with felony murder charges for that parasite. A conviction would lock him up until he’s an adult criminal. One more murder conviction as an adult, and society would be safer. The problem with our prisons is that we don’t lock up parasites for long enough, and felony murder helps to balance those scales.


3 posted on 02/20/2016 6:24:49 AM PST by Pollster1 ("A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean is worthless." - Scalia)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is not a new law, it’s fairly standard across states. Perhaps the “youngsters” shouldn’t have been trying to burgle a house.


4 posted on 02/20/2016 6:26:43 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: Citizen Zed

Hey, that 14 year old was “slight”.

Now, who could charge such an innocent soul?


5 posted on 02/20/2016 6:28:04 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Citizen Zed

The felony murder rule is not unique to IL and isn’t controversial except in those circles who like to burgle and those who like to excuse same.


6 posted on 02/20/2016 6:28:54 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Citizen Zed

The key to training and disapline is immediate punishment on discovery of an infraction.

If they don’t have a father or don’t get supervision, this is what happens.


7 posted on 02/20/2016 6:32:32 AM PST by dila813
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To: Citizen Zed

I’d be fine with simply executing anyone who burgles houses.


8 posted on 02/20/2016 6:34:22 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Welfare: It's a Safety Net, Not a Hammock.)
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To: Citizen Zed

9 posted on 02/20/2016 6:34:36 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Citizen Zed
Nope. No sensationalism here. Controversial in her own mind.

The author


10 posted on 02/20/2016 6:35:45 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama = ISIS Fanboy)
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To: Citizen Zed

Has Always been true. More effort to make it ok to participate in crimes even when people get killed.

Three scum break in my home and kill, you think I don’t blame all three?


11 posted on 02/20/2016 6:35:47 AM PST by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s “controversial” only when it is applied against one of ^Obama’s sons^.


12 posted on 02/20/2016 6:36:35 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Da Coyote

:: Hey, that 14 year old was “slight” ::

And, he was wearing [gasp] A HOODIE!


13 posted on 02/20/2016 6:37:37 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Let me see so if Author’s Muslim friends kill someone all their friends could be charged also is that bad thing


14 posted on 02/20/2016 6:39:35 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: VeniVidiVici
Question: Was it her father or husband that violated Sharia for allowing her to attend college and obtain a "journalism" degree?


15 posted on 02/20/2016 6:40:05 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Nothing controversial about it, you start an illegal situation, somebody dies, the death is on you. You don’t have to do the killing, you made the situation.


16 posted on 02/20/2016 6:40:17 AM PST by discostu (This is a different kind of flying... all together.)
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To: Nateman

Sorry, that is funny.


17 posted on 02/20/2016 6:42:41 AM PST by zek157
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To: BenLurkin
I've never heard of it being “controversial” in any way.

I think it's controversial, and wrong, to charge a criminal for the death of an accomplice at the hands of law enforcement or a person resisting criminals.

The felony murder rule was generally understood as the notion that anyone involved in criminal enterprise is fully responsible for any crime that results. If two people rob a store and the clerk is killed, the accomplice is equally guilty as the person who pulled the trigger.

When the police or a homeowner kill a burglar, the killing was not a crime but a lawful act of self defense, and blaming the accomplice does not make the killing a crime, despite this novel new theory. Jack McCoy, call your office.

18 posted on 02/20/2016 6:50:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Prendre cinq et rendre quatre ce n'est pas donner.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I’m 57 years old and this law has not been controversial in all of that time until, apparently, now. Hmmmmm....


19 posted on 02/20/2016 6:51:39 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: Nateman
Say what? I have to presume that the person holding that sign cannot read and some agent-provocateur handed it to him. Does James O'Keefe have an alibi?
20 posted on 02/20/2016 6:54:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Prendre cinq et rendre quatre ce n'est pas donner.)
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