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Apple forced to install back door for iPhones.
self | 02/17/2016 | self

Posted on 02/17/2016 4:51:49 PM PST by Leo Carpathian

We see tremendous push from government for Apple to facilitate back door access to encryption on phones. This apparently to crack the terrorist's iPhone to find out who are their contacts, etc. This appears to be excuse to bypass privacy of phone users under the guise of security. Feds were ignorant to traffic around the terrorist's house. Now the phone is the key to find out who are their contacts? What does the phone reveal that records at the service provider, log of phone calls, doesn't? Where is the NSA and their records and alerts of possible terrorist activity? I can see record of my phone calls at Verizon, time and phone numbers and messages. GPS tracking programs show history of movement of cell phone, don't need the encryption off phone. Smells like another big lie from big brother in order to gain control of citizen's privacy. What happened to Hillary's private server and communications covered by NSA???


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KEYWORDS: apple; california; government; iphone; nsa; sanbernadino; sanbernardino; spying
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To: Leo Carpathian

Since this is a major cyber security issue, someone should ask Hillary to give her opinion on this at a Town Hall somewhere.


41 posted on 02/17/2016 5:32:05 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Leo Carpathian
Those who would trade essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Ben Franklin
42 posted on 02/17/2016 5:33:09 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: RedStateRocker

To my understanding Apple sold the phones to the public as having unbreakable encryption, even to Apple. So the state is now ordering that Apple must help them find out what is on the phone, and possibly any other phones? Maybe Apple should just say yes, but only if the state makes a one time payment to defray the cost of the loss of consumer confidence in Apple products, like 200 billion or so.

Freegards


43 posted on 02/17/2016 5:33:24 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Snickering Hound

you do have a point about racists like Eric Holder, etc. and I do think the government should stipulate “radical Islamic terrorists” explicitly. But since they’re so PC, they’re not gonna do that. I just don’t want another 9/11 or San Bernadino happening.


44 posted on 02/17/2016 5:34:13 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t like big government. I just dislike big Islam and the evil jihad it brings a lot worse. Trump even agrees with me on this. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-apple-hack-san-bernardino-attacker-phone/story?id=36997198

Especially since the attacker is dead.


45 posted on 02/17/2016 5:34:13 PM PST by TraditionalMerica
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To: GreenHornet

Have snausages ready.


46 posted on 02/17/2016 5:37:40 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: blackdog

That’s a good point. But why would the county buy phones that were supposedly unbreakable, if they have this responsibility to be able to find out what their employee put on the phone?

Freegards


47 posted on 02/17/2016 5:38:57 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: dfwgator

Absolutely true!


48 posted on 02/17/2016 5:39:45 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

How about fighting this war the way it should be fought and not at the expense of MY rights?


49 posted on 02/17/2016 5:44:26 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Leo Carpathian

If the Feds get what they want, the backdoor will be public within 15 minutes of them getting access. Some Fed will “sell” the secret as fast as the cash can be transferred.


50 posted on 02/17/2016 5:44:47 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Events are converging and every day is a day that needs to be used to prepare.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Apple’s position (and I’m not sure I agree with it) is, once they create the exploit (a copy of iOS 9 that breaks encryption) that it will inevitably get into the wild and ruin their business model.

If Apple writes the code and installs it on THIS phone, then destroys the code base and the FBI destroys the phone after they get the data, I don’t know that that’s a problem.

And yes, I agree they should demand a warrant.


51 posted on 02/17/2016 5:45:28 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

OK.

But let’s say Apple gives them a ‘key’, and they get data.

Then someone challenges the key, saying, “That key distorts the real data, making our client look guilty when he is not.”, or some such variant.

Just Slouching Towards Nauseam.


52 posted on 02/17/2016 5:46:06 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: TraditionalMerica
you do have a point about racists like Eric Holder, etc. and I do think the government should stipulate “radical Islamic terrorists” explicitly. But since they’re so PC, they’re not gonna do that. I just don’t want another 9/11 or San Bernadino happening.

If they were interested in stopping another 9/11, there would be much more stringent screening of muslim immigrants and surveillance of all those muslim brotherhood owned and operated mosques here in the US that over and over again are linked to these terrorist attacks.

53 posted on 02/17/2016 5:46:47 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Ransomed

If Tim Cooks life depended on it they’d have every last emotion in HD before Starbucks could make you a triple nonfat latte. :-)


54 posted on 02/17/2016 5:47:38 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: Jim Noble

How can the government legally force anyone to WRITE code? Release code, sure (it’s called a warrant). But create non-existing code? That’s government-ordered slavery.

And the government won’t destroy the phone until they have the firmware downloaded and hacked. Period.


55 posted on 02/17/2016 5:49:11 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: montag813

Remember the guy who had detected the India group that the female shooter came from.

He was ordered to delete those records in the data base.

How about we ‘undelete’ those records, and continue investigating using his methods.


56 posted on 02/17/2016 5:50:09 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: GreenHornet
Since this is a major cyber security issue, someone should ask Hillary to give her opinion on this at a Town Hall somewhere.

After all, she's the only candidate with personal experience of running super-top-secret email servers. That makes her qualified.

57 posted on 02/17/2016 5:50:48 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Read Write Repeat

Right.

Probably already has.


58 posted on 02/17/2016 5:51:00 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

That would mean no more iPhone.

They aren’t going to kill their cash cow.


59 posted on 02/17/2016 5:52:07 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Scrambler Bob

Apple won’t be giving them a “key,” because they can’t. They’ll be giving them a new firmware that reduces the security of the phone. And a judge might order that the firmware must be disclosed to a defendant during trial. Another reason to oppose this!


60 posted on 02/17/2016 5:54:45 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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