Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike
I have been a member of FreeRepublic since February 1998, and in all my years I have ever seen so many Freepers support, and defend such a leftist candidate as Donald Trump. In the old days, any candidate that spouted the rhetoric coming out of his mouth would have been received with unanimous hatred from Freepers.
Mitt Romney was met with scorn when he claimed to have changed and was more conservative than his record showed. However, The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again. Never mind that his fruit smells like Skubala. Any Republican candidate in the past who supported partial birth abortion was considered dead on arrival with 99.9% of Freepers. Yet a vast number of Freepers today look at Trump's defense of PP, and attack the candidate who dares to bring it up at a debate.
Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn't too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.
Interestingly enough, the ones I researched, all demanded that both Houses of Congress go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts. Many of them even demanded that the House use their power of the purse to defund PP. Yet these very same individuals defend, and make excuse for Trump's defense of said abortion factory, or at least claim it's bothersome but will still support him. These same individuals, however, were demanding McConnell resign for failing to pass legislation in the senate defunding PP. I did similar searches on their opinions of various other topics that Trump defends which would normally be cause of revulsion from these supporters had it been any other politician.
Well, I must admit that I am rather stunned by the way they have so easily changed their stances.
Who would have known that those who accused Jimmy Carter of never meeting a dictator and communist he didn't like, would now tout that his endorsement of Trump is not Trumps problem, and some even claim it will help him with Democrat voters in November. So we are now to welcome a politician that will get votes from leftists?
I thought the idea was to win them over to conservatism, not to abandon our beliefs just to get them to vote for our guy. So when will Freepers decide we need to change our stances on topics like "Black Lives Matter" to get more blacks to vote for our guy, or maybe we can find a good Muslim candidate who has made billions and talks a good game. Hey, so what if he may support Sharia law, just think of all those Muslim votes we can get from refugees Obama shipped in and we could actually own Dearborn Michigan. There has got to be some great female politicians who support PP that we could get behind, After all, we do have a problem with the female vote, right?
Yea, I'm just an old timer with old time values from the days when The Donald was still giving money to the Clintons and laughing at Republicans for making such a big deal over BJs in the Oval Office. Yup, just a geezer who remembers the wall of separation set up by Jamie Gorelick to keep Clinton from being prosecuted over Witewater which led to the attack on 9/11.
I guess I'm a conspiracy believer who thinks 9/11 was Clinton's fault, not GW's, and that the Weapons of Mass Destruction the NY Times finally admitted existed were originally sold to the public by the Clinton's to help get the Democrats on board for the war on Iraq.
Those were the good old days when we used to rip apart fake politicians for trying too hard to fit into our club, instead of ripping the messengers for noticing a fake when we see one.
Yea, that was before FreeRepublic jumped the Shark.
It is your accusation. Give the link. How hard can it be?
Agree
“on this thread, the author has the utter nerve to protect himself from expected incoming by hiding behind the Bible. That is not just contemptible, its repulsive.”
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
Thomas Jefferson — in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
Not that I'm piling on the Donald as a purist in this myself, for I do find myself not in total disagreement with him in this, for pragmatic reasons, but there has been wide coverage of what Thumper1960 quoted in post #332.
Why a link was not provided there, I dunno, but here's some;
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-support-federal-funding-planned-parenthood/story?id=33017546 Aug 12, 2015
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/02/fact-check-trump-supports-planned-parenthood February 13, 2016
which has a link embedded leading to Breitbart;
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/11/trump-open-to-idea-of-continuing-taxpayer-funding-of-planned-parenthood/ dated 11 Aug 2015
“I live in Texas and I promise you it will never be built.”
What other divine powers do you possess?
Agreed. They give away birth control pills and condoms because they work, right?
To be fair there used to be more discussions on policy but no longer. At times it looks like the Ron/Rand Paul/Huckster mentality has set in.
“Franklin Graham and Mike Huckabee and the Dallas southern Baptist preacher have all sullied themselves with Trump”
Sullied?
Who appointed you judge of the people of the earth?
Cruz has “sullied” himself with homosexual donors, open-border globalists.
You picked a poor example since just a couple of days ago he said he made that comment with tongue in cheek...He and his sister are far, far apart on political issues...And we who support Trump and watched him make the comment initially knew he wasn't being serious...
So how about you inform us of the other many issues Trump is off base on...We think we are supporting a winner; a Patriot with some really conservative positions for the direction we need to go in...
Obviously the majority of FReepers think Trump is 'on base'...Where is Trump wrong???
How many times do you have to state something isn't fiscally or socially conservative, Republican, or anti-liberty? People understand what rhetoric is -- at least I hope so.
I stand with you WHOLE HEARTEDLY and second every thing you said.
I did the same thing, going back to old posts because I was so baffled. I’ve taken people’s quotes back then, even as late as 2013 and copy/pasted them now in response to some of their hero worship. Not one person has responded. And that’s ok. It’s just sad.
Also, don’t be too dismayed. There are some Freepers that just signed up last summer and post about 6 to 7 articles A DAY worshiping a progressive candidate and/or attacking the most conservative one. So you’ve got your obvious paid shills.
I knew the new populist/nationalist candidate had a social media/Internet army, I just never imagined they’d infiltrate here.
Oh well. Keep fighting the good fight.
Onward and upward.
Some encouragement: I just read where the conservative candidate is surging in internal Polls according to Howard Kurtz. Post debate reality check? Who knows?
You’re right. Struck many nerves with this as well. Confirms you’re right.
Ditto
He's a dyed in the wool Presbyterian. Why would he ask forgiveness?
Please name one case where cruz sided with his donors over his constituents.
He doesn’t have a record of that.
So you’d rather a guy who admits to buying politicians?
We haven’t all strayed.
I’ll never vote for a candidate just because he’s richer than the others or has a louder mouth.
Bingo
Helping to defeat amnesty.
That helped Texas AND the country.
And he’s ONE senator. What the hell do you expect him to do?
The House defeated amnesty.
Quit casting stones.
Do you read what you post?
You say he was never for a wall, then you say he was for a wall, fences, drones and whatever else would work.
You understand that even Mr. Great Orange Hope had said as much. You realize the can’t logistically be one straight wall across the border, right? I know it’s enchanting to get lost in the goose step rhythm of a man who said “build the wall build the wall build the wall” because you can just knock your brain outta gear, repeat, repeat, etc and your guy believed it to.....until he met with border towns who had to explain to him why some areas would be impossible to have a wall and would need a fence or armed guards, etc.
He concurred. He just forgot to mention it at his rock star worship a thons because it’s hard to make a catchy chant or soundbite out of reality.
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