Posted on 02/14/2016 9:47:13 PM PST by OneVike
I have been a member of FreeRepublic since February 1998, and in all my years I have ever seen so many Freepers support, and defend such a leftist candidate as Donald Trump. In the old days, any candidate that spouted the rhetoric coming out of his mouth would have been received with unanimous hatred from Freepers.
Mitt Romney was met with scorn when he claimed to have changed and was more conservative than his record showed. However, The Donald says the same thing and he is allowed to wear his liberal record as badge of honor, because he has been born again. Never mind that his fruit smells like Skubala. Any Republican candidate in the past who supported partial birth abortion was considered dead on arrival with 99.9% of Freepers. Yet a vast number of Freepers today look at Trump's defense of PP, and attack the candidate who dares to bring it up at a debate.
Thinking I have stumbled in some black hole of Bizzaro World, I decided to spend most the night, after the debate yesterday, researching past posts and comments of many Freepers who support Trump. I must admit that I wasn't too shocked to see that not all, but the vast majority, of his supporters have joined FR within the last 8 years. However I pretty much only searched the opinions of his most ardent supporters.
Interestingly enough, the ones I researched, all demanded that both Houses of Congress go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts. Many of them even demanded that the House use their power of the purse to defund PP. Yet these very same individuals defend, and make excuse for Trump's defense of said abortion factory, or at least claim it's bothersome but will still support him. These same individuals, however, were demanding McConnell resign for failing to pass legislation in the senate defunding PP. I did similar searches on their opinions of various other topics that Trump defends which would normally be cause of revulsion from these supporters had it been any other politician.
Well, I must admit that I am rather stunned by the way they have so easily changed their stances.
Who would have known that those who accused Jimmy Carter of never meeting a dictator and communist he didn't like, would now tout that his endorsement of Trump is not Trumps problem, and some even claim it will help him with Democrat voters in November. So we are now to welcome a politician that will get votes from leftists?
I thought the idea was to win them over to conservatism, not to abandon our beliefs just to get them to vote for our guy. So when will Freepers decide we need to change our stances on topics like "Black Lives Matter" to get more blacks to vote for our guy, or maybe we can find a good Muslim candidate who has made billions and talks a good game. Hey, so what if he may support Sharia law, just think of all those Muslim votes we can get from refugees Obama shipped in and we could actually own Dearborn Michigan. There has got to be some great female politicians who support PP that we could get behind, After all, we do have a problem with the female vote, right?
Yea, I'm just an old timer with old time values from the days when The Donald was still giving money to the Clintons and laughing at Republicans for making such a big deal over BJs in the Oval Office. Yup, just a geezer who remembers the wall of separation set up by Jamie Gorelick to keep Clinton from being prosecuted over Witewater which led to the attack on 9/11.
I guess I'm a conspiracy believer who thinks 9/11 was Clinton's fault, not GW's, and that the Weapons of Mass Destruction the NY Times finally admitted existed were originally sold to the public by the Clinton's to help get the Democrats on board for the war on Iraq.
Those were the good old days when we used to rip apart fake politicians for trying too hard to fit into our club, instead of ripping the messengers for noticing a fake when we see one.
Yea, that was before FreeRepublic jumped the Shark.
Not to mention all the checks that D. trump wrote to elect people like Harry Reid and a Yucky Schumer.
I’m holding him to the standard of a Christian he claims to be.
His fruit stinketh
Thus he isn’t what he claims.
Anyone who would lie openly about his relationship with Christ is a deceiver in his heart
Why would I trust him with my country if I would not trust him with a plate offering
Without that jackass, we’d have Jeb in the drivers seat telling us that beating Hillary isn’t all that important to him.
Rudy Giuliani deserves an apology that’s for sure. ;-)
We are allowed to disagree with JimRob, aren't we? Or have I missed something?
Exactly conservatives haven’t been in Controll since Reagan and to a lesser extent in Congress during Newt’s tenure.
I have been since about that time as well. I have never seen so much hate and venom towards FReepers that simply disagree about Trump. Shame. It was so much more civil and informative in the old days.
I have become disgusted by the lords and ladies of the political class.. Why, the manner some of them use Jesus is pure blasphemy.
Fat Cat Tax Cheat
Mercer
https://www.crowdpac.com/blog/cruz-clinton-wall-street
Your phony savior is Owned by a NYC Hedge Fund Billionaire with a
6 billion dollar Tax fraud problem that DC insider Ted can resolve once in the WH .
Sucker
“...we might get legalized abortion, homosexual marriage, huge deficits, oppressive Federal Regulations, and general loss of freedom. ...”
We already got those due to 0.
Time to undo them.
So, now you have takent the Lord’s place on the throne have you? You can judge what is in Trump’s heart? He has many good fruits, but you are so blinded by your self-righteousness, that you refuse to see them. Now, let’s talk about stinking fruit, shall we? Ted Cruz is a liar, a weasle and a cheater. I hardly call those good fruits - am I being judgmental? He has been caught in his lies, and caught at cheating in Iowa, so, those are public. Has he repented? That I don’t know, but, he isn’t so danged holy either, now is he? And, you don’t know anything about Cruz’s past. However, Trump’s life is and has been an open book. He doesn’t hide his life or mistakes. They are out there. Unlike your sneaky candidate.
Non denominational evangelical
I usually attend either and EV Free or Calvary Chapel
Big difference between many of the businesses you list
The Bible is pretty explicit on what it says about houses of ill repute
You wish to debate them, I won’t
trump owns strip joints, I’ll leave it at that, because in my younger years I was involved in few and I know what goes on in and around with the clientele and those who works them. So you take it for what it is.
I would have less problem if the strip joints were not in them because not all casinos have them, but all of the ones Trump is involved with do.
Isn't his sister older than Trump...?
So as a SC judge is a non starter....just Trump being polite.
I’m sure you are, however, when people start trying to tell him how to run his board, he might take issue with that.
You are not alone in your observations. When Freepers seemed to enjoy Trump’s use of profanity, I knew something bad was in the air.
So you change your mind because of supporters of a candidate, and not on the actual positions of said candidate? What positions does Cruz support that you dislike?
Joined last year.
To me you are a liberal, to some you are a Rino, to others you may be conservative, but to me you are still a liberal.
Be gone. I’ll have nothing to do with you.
Don’t expect another reply from me
Some FReepers, including the big boss JimRob, were smart enough to see the fix 4 years ago, or earlier. I only see it now. We are being played. There is only one party in DC. It’s a ruling cabal where lip service is given to “conservatism” on the right, but the fix is in for the cabal who don’t have the USA citizens’ best interests at heart, only their continued income and power.
Every four years, we conservatives gather round and try to choose the most conservative candidate. We feel so virtuous, honestly weighing the candidates’ curricula vitae. BUT IT’S A GAME THEY PLAY ON US. There is mostly no way a real conservative will be allowed to win, and if a guy from the “right” like W Bush wins, you can believe he is already bought and paid for or under their thumbs.
The right candidate to have even a chance of breaking through the oligarchy’s hold on us will be a candidate who dares speak strongly to the media, and whom no one in power on left or right will support. Reagan was the last man to do this. He wasn’t perfect; no one is.
Your FReeper friends have not deserted the idealism of having a seriously conservative President. They just know that going with a Ted Cruz in 2016 is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
WE HAVE LOST OUR COUNTRY and we need to fight the oligarchy to get it back. There is a real chance Trump could achieve something. Not because he is uber conservative; that is non applicable. It’s because he is bold, patriotic, and very rich so he can protect his family from what may threaten them.
We haven’t turned liberal. We have prioritized.
1. Fight the oligarchy that keeps us serfs, and their media arm
Over
2. Feeling really really good about the conservative creds of a candidate who will lose or be owned in office
Please understand how important #1 is.
3 reasons why people are supporting Trump.
1. Jobs
2. Jobs
3. Jobs
Trump has created more jobs all by himself in the real and productive economy private sector than all 44 presidents COMBINED!
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