Posted on 01/09/2016 7:35:03 AM PST by soakncider
TRUE HISTORY OF THE WAR FOR SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE IN THIS AGE OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861-1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known. All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labelled "Slavery and Treason". Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat....
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“Every teacher, every student of history, every citizen should read this book” - Howard Zinn
Yea, no thanks
Zinn was referring to a different book by a similar name, written by James Loewen.
No they don’t.
I stand corrected.
The secessionists offer to pay for Fort Sumter and other federal property is proof that they didn’t own it or have a right to it.
They took it by an act of war.
Yes they do...excepting willful surrender or unlawful forcible seizure.
In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty — in a word, secede. -Walter E. Williams
http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2015/07/15/historical-ignorance-n2024814/page/full
War and violence do not and cannot crush the natural right of self-determination. It can muddle the picture and force the vanquished into submission so long as the boot is firmly planted on their collective throats, but a bloody nose and a prostrate people settles nothing. -Brion Mcclanahan
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-secession-legal/
I seem to recall something about Federal troops crossing the Potomac River and invading the Commonwealth of Virginia. In fact, almost every battle was fought on Southern soil in defense against an invading US army. Not sure where you got this idea about secessionists starting the war. By its very definition, secessionists wanted to leave the Union - not fight for control over it.
The state ceded to property to the federal government in perpetuity (do you know what that means? It means forever)
They have the idiotic prerogative to attempt to seize it but they have no right (other than the “right” of force) to take it.
Oh, and by the way the signing statements of the individual states were only that - signing statements. They had and have no force of law. Williams is wrong.
I believe that it had something to do with people taking things that didn’t belong to them.
Like Richmond?
“Williams was wrong.”
If Walter E. Williams posts a retraction, i’ll have to agree with you.
I assume that we all agree that, so long as our cause is just, we have a natural, God-given right and responsibility to resist tyranny. Defending slavery is not a just cause. But defending one’s home is.
Both sides were stubborn, in my humble opinion, and more should have been done to avoid armed conflict.
Slavery was wrong, and the yankee treatment of Southerners was also wrong.
Firing on Fort Sumter was wrong, and chasing the yankees back to Gettysburg was a tactical mistake.
The yankees never should have invaded a sovereign nation, even if they thought the nation illegitimate.
Both Northern Democratic and Republican Parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the South’s right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): “If tyranny and despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861.” Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): “An attempt to subjugate the seceded states, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil — evil unmitigated in character and appalling in content.” The New York Times (March 21, 1861): “There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go.” -Walter E. Williams
H.L. Mencken: “It [Gettysburg Address] is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense.” Lincoln said the soldiers sacrificed their lives “to the cause of self-determination — that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth.” Mencken says: “It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves.”
The yankees never did.
indeed; keep living your righteous delusion.
Poppycock.
And you yours.
I believe that it had something to do with people taking things that didn’t belong to them.
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Funny how we have to keep repeating the facts.
That’s what I’m here for ;’}
Tools of the leftists
The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken
Yes, jeff davis, alexander stephens, and to a degree REL were tools of the leftists. It’s such a shame that so much blood was needlessly spilled, and that there still remain a few who are so deluded.
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