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Trump supporters and the Oregon militiamen agree: More free stuff for us, nothing for anyone else
Salon ^ | 1-4-2016 | AMANDA MARCOTTE

Posted on 01/08/2016 11:48:52 AM PST by Citizen Zed

... the Bundy militia members occupying a federal wildlife preserve in Burns, Oregon are motivated by the very same mix of resentments and hobby horses that are driving the Donald Trump movement. Both Trump's supporters and the Bundy agitators are moved by an unsubtly racialized sense of entitlement, a belief that federal benefits and giveaways are great when going to conservative white people but illegitimate if they go to anyone else, especially people of color.

As David Roberts at Vox recently pointed out, Trump supporters aren't motivated by some ideological opposition to the concept of government benefits. They are perfectly fine with government benefits that they accrue. What they object to is other people - especially people of color, who they stereotype as lazy and undeserving - also getting benefits.

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Did Rand Paul write this?
1 posted on 01/08/2016 11:48:52 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Unintentionally funny.


2 posted on 01/08/2016 11:49:57 AM PST by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: Citizen Zed

For a second I thought I was in the wrong forum.


3 posted on 01/08/2016 11:50:35 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Citizen Zed

For a minute I thought I had been redirected to Democratic Underground.


4 posted on 01/08/2016 11:52:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Citizen Zed

I cannot tell whether the writer is shockingly stupid or just shockingly dishonest and trying to deceive readers who are shockingly stupid.


5 posted on 01/08/2016 11:53:00 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

Since it’s Amanda Marcotte, the answer is “Both.”


6 posted on 01/08/2016 11:53:49 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: Pollster1

I think the writer doesn’t know the “Racist” issue is DEAD! Trump killed Political Correctness!


7 posted on 01/08/2016 11:55:27 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

yep


8 posted on 01/08/2016 11:56:14 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Citizen Zed

What a crock of excrement.


9 posted on 01/08/2016 11:56:51 AM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is stupid. Federal lands belong to Americans to be used and not to Big Gov Inc. They shouldn’t be holding these massive pieces of property in the first place according to constitutional scholar Rob Natelson.

And I’m a Trump/Cruz supporter and I’m not looking for entitlements at all. In fact, I’m looking to scale the budget back to reality.


10 posted on 01/08/2016 11:59:43 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Citizen Zed

Salon. ‘Nuff said.


11 posted on 01/08/2016 12:00:01 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Despite claims to be libertarian and ideologically supportive of smaller government and lower taxes, the Republican Party has historically kowtowed to this mentality, attacking government benefits perceived as going to the “less deserving,” such as food stamps or public housing subsidies, while leaving those perceived as going to elderly white people, such as Social Security or Medicare, well enough alone.

Oh Amanda, you know not of what you write. Food stamps and public housing goes to anyone that fits the eligibility criteria, even if they have never put anything into the system.

Social Security and Medicare are benefits drawn by people who have paid into the system.

If you don't know the difference, you should write about another subject.

12 posted on 01/08/2016 12:00:36 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Citizen Zed

Another leftist spin-site I refuse to click on.


13 posted on 01/08/2016 12:01:36 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Its really funny hearing leftist try to make this argument.


14 posted on 01/08/2016 12:04:00 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Citizen Zed

Her Wikipedia page reads just like one would expect.


15 posted on 01/08/2016 12:04:20 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is stupid. Wide open land doesn’t cost trillions of dollars to provide and the federal government constitutionally is on very thin ground when it comes to annexing so much land that isn’t related to constitutionally authorized purposes. Hunting a deer on federal land isn’t equivalent to welfare. This whole argument is idiotic.


16 posted on 01/08/2016 12:04:57 PM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Citizen Zed

Salon, a magazine for moronic liberal idiots to make them look smart, but in reality, it makes the moronic idiots DUMBER...


17 posted on 01/08/2016 12:05:06 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Citizen Zed

Amanda Marcotte is strangely silent about the disturbingly real attacks on women in Cologne, especially since she was so vocal about the laughably false University of Virginia story.


18 posted on 01/08/2016 12:06:17 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Sergio
while leaving those perceived as going to elderly white people, such as Social Security or Medicare, well enough alone.

Wait -- you mean black people can't go on Medicare?

19 posted on 01/08/2016 12:15:26 PM PST by Maceman
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To: Maelstorm

It’s a variant of “positive rights vs negative rights”: the observation that the only real/valid “rights” are ones which do NOT require anyone else to do anything. In this case, Salon is trying to conflate “positive welfare” with “negative welfare”, ignoring the vast difference between “from each according to his means, to each according to his needs” with “Constitutional public welfare clause”.

“It’s there, use it, just don’t screw it up for anyone else” is far different from “I’m going to incarcerate you if you don’t give him money”.


20 posted on 01/08/2016 12:15:42 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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