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From the time he broke into the majors in 1963 until he retired in 1986, Rose amassed 4,256 hits (1st all- time), 746 doubles (2nd all-time) and 2,165 runs (fifth all-time). He played for three World Series Champions, and was named the MVP of the 1975 Series. Those are un-godly numbers. They are the numbers of a Hall of Famer.

Unfortunately, he also ignored Major League Baseball's Rule 21 (d)

Rule 21 (d) is posted on the clubhouse door in every major league stadium, and has been for years. Rose probably walked by those signs 15,000 times during his career.

Rule 21 (d), which states: d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.

It doesn't say... unless you've got 4000 hits or 700 home runs or won 300 games or have 3000 strike outs. It says ANY PLAYER....He chose to ignore the signs, he chose to bet on baseball, and he's being punished in accordance with the rule. He also chose to lie about his actions for 14 years, and even after acknowledging them, still doesn't seem to understand that his mistake wasn't failing to apologize sooner. It's that he bet on baseball in the first place. How gutless.

1 posted on 12/14/2015 4:00:07 PM PST by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

One of the best ever, MLB can suck it.


2 posted on 12/14/2015 4:01:53 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Beave Meister

Wife beating, coke snorting, that’s OK, just don’t bet.

MLB is entertainment, not government.


3 posted on 12/14/2015 4:05:26 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Beave Meister
Actions have consequences.One of the consequences for Pete is no HoF.
5 posted on 12/14/2015 4:07:37 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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8 posted on 12/14/2015 4:10:51 PM PST by Artemis Webb (CAIR should be designated a terrorist organization. Muhammad was a Pedophile.)
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To: Beave Meister
When the Commissioner decided against Shoeless Joe Jackson's reinstatement the writing was on the wall for Pete Rose. This should come as a surprise to nobody.

Having said that, if I were commissioner I would have decided in Jackson and Roses favor. They didn't murder anybody. Apparently in the eyes of the commissioner punishments for gambling must go on until death and after.

9 posted on 12/14/2015 4:13:56 PM PST by Artemis Webb (CAIR should be designated a terrorist organization. Muhammad was a Pedophile.)
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To: Beave Meister

Bob Feller was fond of saying that baseball is comprised of many rules of which only a handful are posted in EVERY clubhouse in MLB and gambling is one of them. I say Rose gets in, but not while he’s alive and even then I don’t think they will.


10 posted on 12/14/2015 4:14:54 PM PST by Mean Daddy
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To: Beave Meister

Make a fortune:

Open a Pete Rose Hall of Fame Museum in Canton a block from the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Money hand over fist.


13 posted on 12/14/2015 4:23:02 PM PST by Eddie01 (uh oh)
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To: Beave Meister

The recent TV commercial he did for skechers shoes literally mocks the Hall of Fame, so contrition is not Pete’s strong suit. In fact, he’s a bum.


16 posted on 12/14/2015 4:34:57 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Beave Meister

continued to bet on horse racing and on professional sports, including baseball. Those bets may have been permitted by law in the jurisdictions in which they were placed, but this fact does not mean that the bets would be permissible if made by a player or manager subject to Rule 21.”

“Even more troubling, in our interview, Rose initially denied betting on baseball currently and only later in the interview did he ‘clarify’ his response to admit such betting.”


17 posted on 12/14/2015 4:34:57 PM PST by dem bums
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To: Beave Meister

I don’t like what MLB is doing getting involved and making money off of online gambling with the recent deal they struck with Draftkings. Kind of hypocritical.


26 posted on 12/14/2015 5:47:18 PM PST by barmag25
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To: Beave Meister

Maybe he can petition His Arrogance for a pardon .... just a couple million of his betting fortune should buy him one and a pardon from God’s chief adviser ought to do it for him!


27 posted on 12/14/2015 6:01:03 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (As America struggles to determine if Brady's balls are under inflated Obama is stealing our country.)
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To: Beave Meister

He was betting for his own team to win. It wouldn’t serve his betting interests for his team to take a dive. His duty to perform was still being met.

Apparently if he’d bet on the Yankees to win and was not playing against the Yankees in that game, he would only have faced a year’s penalty.

I don’t see that scenario to be any better than what he was punished for.


31 posted on 12/14/2015 6:12:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: Beave Meister
How is he suppose to "right his wrongs"?

He can accept punishment for them but there is no way that you can "right the wrong" of betting when you should not have.

40 posted on 12/14/2015 7:17:00 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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I was at the game where he smacked Bud Harrelson. It was nuts.
On the ride home, the subway (aboveway) was filled with fans proudly displaying stadium seating and field sod. I was about 10. My poor mom was petrified.


51 posted on 12/14/2015 11:03:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Beave Meister

Pete Rose needs forgiveness. There is no doubt that he gambled on baseball. There is proof that he gambled as a manager and at the end of his career as a player/manager. Those player/manager years didn’t yield much regarding Rose’s records. If anything, they were a statistical drag on them.

This article seems to say that the justice of Rose’s ban from baseball lies in his unwillingness to come totally clean. I don’t believe that. I think Rose could have confessed to everything he’d done wrong from childhood, and it wouldn’t have mattered. Rose was not forgiven because baseball dug its heels in, and all commissioners since did not want to look like the weak link. So be it. Destiny...his and theirs.

The hypocrisy of baseball remains, though. They still list him as the hits leader, and they still list him as having the most 200 hits seasons and a huge list of other records. They haven’t withdrawn the World Series crowns of Cincy and Philly from their Rose eras. They keep his pictures, they keep his footage, and they invoke his name when it is convenient for them.

So, when they figure out how his gambling enabled him to hit off of an opposing pitcher 4,256 times, that’s when I’ll believe that the player should be banned. Ban the manager/coach and not the player. It’s not like he’s going to get drafted in his mid-70’s.


52 posted on 12/15/2015 6:17:35 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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