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Posted on 12/14/2015 4:00:06 PM PST by Beave Meister
It was a metaphor for all to see on this fall's World Series pre- and postgame shows. An outcast for more than a quarter-century, Pete Rose appeared as a Fox Sports TV analyst -- on a set outside the stadium.
Now Rose, 74, will remain officially on the outs for the foreseeable future, following Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred's denial on Monday of Rose's bid for reinstatement, 26 years after his lifetime ban based on evidence that he had gambled on the sport -- and on his own team -- as manager of the Cincinnati Reds.
Manfred's ruling is the latest consequence of what even some supporters of the Hit King have characterized as Rose's consistent inability to pursue a path to redemption and return since the MLB investigation initiated by commissioner Peter Ueberroth documented his repeated violations of Rule 21. That rule is the prohibition against betting, posted prominently in every big league clubhouse.
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Unfortunately, he also ignored Major League Baseball's Rule 21 (d)
Rule 21 (d) is posted on the clubhouse door in every major league stadium, and has been for years. Rose probably walked by those signs 15,000 times during his career.
Rule 21 (d), which states: d) BETTING ON BALL GAMES. Any player, umpire, or club official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.
It doesn't say... unless you've got 4000 hits or 700 home runs or won 300 games or have 3000 strike outs. It says ANY PLAYER....He chose to ignore the signs, he chose to bet on baseball, and he's being punished in accordance with the rule. He also chose to lie about his actions for 14 years, and even after acknowledging them, still doesn't seem to understand that his mistake wasn't failing to apologize sooner. It's that he bet on baseball in the first place. How gutless.
One of the best ever, MLB can suck it.
Wife beating, coke snorting, that’s OK, just don’t bet.
MLB is entertainment, not government.
...along with the media, who want the full Arthur Dimmesdale hairshirt/self-flagellation routine. Rose admitted the truth way back in 2007 but they want a weepy press conference.
4,000 hits in the pre-steroid era. That should merit at least induction of one of his bats into the HoF, if not the man himself.
And all this doesn't solve the other problem: the players in the hall who weren't really good enough but who were forced in.
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Having said that, if I were commissioner I would have decided in Jackson and Roses favor. They didn't murder anybody. Apparently in the eyes of the commissioner punishments for gambling must go on until death and after.
Bob Feller was fond of saying that baseball is comprised of many rules of which only a handful are posted in EVERY clubhouse in MLB and gambling is one of them. I say Rose gets in, but not while he’s alive and even then I don’t think they will.
If Rose did not bet while an active player (if he did I'm unaware of it)I think a case can be made for his admittance to the Hall of Fame based on his outstanding achievements as a player. His present ban from baseball could stand.
i figure they’ll give it to him after he’s dead sort o a black sox exhibit kind of thing
Make a fortune:
Open a Pete Rose Hall of Fame Museum in Canton a block from the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Money hand over fist.
There is Rose gear in the adjoining HOF museum; he is denied admission to the hall of fame.
There is even gear of Shoeless Joe Jackson in the museum.
Gwjack
He admitted he bet on games as a player. “I bet every night, not one or two nights a week. I bet every night on baseball.”
The recent TV commercial he did for skechers shoes literally mocks the Hall of Fame, so contrition is not Pete’s strong suit. In fact, he’s a bum.
continued to bet on horse racing and on professional sports, including baseball. Those bets may have been permitted by law in the jurisdictions in which they were placed, but this fact does not mean that the bets would be permissible if made by a player or manager subject to Rule 21.”
“Even more troubling, in our interview, Rose initially denied betting on baseball currently and only later in the interview did he ‘clarify’ his response to admit such betting.”
If the Rose hall of fame is in Canton, it’ll be more than a block away from the baseball HOF in Cooperstown.
And he admitted (after initially denying) that he still, to this day, bets on baseball.
Might as well be honest about why the museum to one ball player would be, ah, interesting.
Don't know about the it would make money hand over fist part. It might work, it might not.
Creating positive cash flow out of it would be a gamble. I suppose some could roll the dice and sign a lease?
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