Posted on 12/12/2015 5:19:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien
Yesterday we reported that Donald Trump and Ted Cruz seemed to be preparing to go to war with each other. A few hours later, however, Cruz himself responded on Twitter by saying that, although the media would love to see a cage match between himself and the billionaire businessman, he won't play along.
That could -- and by all means should -- have been the end of it.
Sadly it is not. Trump can also read polls and understands that Cruz poses a serious threat to him in Iowa. And so the cage match has started, whether Cruz likes it or not:
"The New Yorker spent more time on Friday poking Cruz for opposing ethanol subsidies, which are widely popular there. Independent groups there are beginning to spend money against Cruz for his position, which Trump told a questioner was "anti-Iowa." Cruz says the subsidies are an example of government interference in the free market."
The Donald literally said:
"With the ethanol, really, he's got to come a long way, 'cause right now he's for the oil. But I understand it, oil pays him a lot of money. He's got to be for oil, right? But I'm with you. I'm self-funding. I have no oil company. I have no special interest."
Of course The Donald is a special interest, but it would be rather inconvenient for him to point that out. And so he's playing self-funding card once again, hoping it'll give him the edge, while defending crony capitalism.
Trump apparently thinks that he can win Iowa by defending ethanol subsidies. This is what he does: he tries to buy people's votes. The difference with Cruz is stark: the senator from Texas chooses principles over short-term political gain.
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
So what now ? Elect exclusively billionaires in the future because everyone else has to run their presidential campaigns off of donations ?
In that case we will only be influenced by what all the billionaires have to say, and be only at their mercy.
No thanks..
We don’t want to elect anymore tyrants who are not held accountable.
No thanks
And the Department of Agriculture!
Scroll down a bit and read the thread about Trumps interview this morning. Probably better to wait for the video to post on youtube or fox.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3371682/posts
He was also wrong. Cruz supports eliminating ALL energy subsidies. Trump dances with half truth again.
As he was this AM on Faux Gnews.
I have worked in both. The oil industry has more subsidies than ethanol could ever hope to. Oh, OSHA, the EPA, and a lot of other fedgov agencies treat oil much differently than oil.
One example is to point out that all the rail cars that keep blowing up filled with oil would not meet the standard if they were filled with ethanol.
If we are going to play the game, then cut all the subsides. Which I would support.
If I understand it correctly, the idea is to use up large amounts of money, fuel, land and water to grow food, and then, using up more money, energy and water, that food is turned into ethanol.
Then, that ethanol gets blended with gasoline, which by itself has more energy than ethanol, to create a lower energy replacement for gasoline, in order to save money and have a cleaner environment.
However, because the gasohol has less energy than gasoline, vehicles get fewer miles per gallon than with pure gas, and thus burn more fuel to go the same distance.
Is that close, because that sounds crazy. Does anyone speak "Common Core" and can explain this math to me?
Why don't we just use gasoline for fuel, eat the food we grow, responsibly enjoy the ethanol we distill and save the water for better uses?
Oil much differently than ethanol.
Wow, I need more coffee this Saturday!
Cruz for President Campaign Asks Radio Stations to Pull False Attack Ads Running in Iowa
"It is blatantly false to suggest that Sen. Cruz wants to end the Renewable Fuel Standard while maintaining subsidies for oil," Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said. "Cruz has repeatedly stated that he would end all energy specific subsidies, both ethanol and oil among others."Earlier this year in a speech delivered at Heritage Action in Washington, D.C., Cruz said, "Big government energy mandates don't stop with ethanol. There are tax credits for almost every form of energy. Each designed to give one industry a leg up over the other."
Thanks for that update. I hadn’t heard about it. I did note that Trump retweeted the nice tweet Cruz made yesterday. Trump only retweets comments he likes, so it was a positive move.
And the real oil expense no one wants to talk about; a huge percent of the US defense budget (and foreign policy) is devoted to protecting oil production and transportation.
"who's for ethanol subsidies, who's against ethanol subsidies"......
Don’t be stupid. The media would like nothing more than a full fight between Cruz and Trump knocking them both out.
Trump hasn’t said anything that isn’t true. Cruz isn’t playing along. DOn’t feed the fires.
Decide who you back and bak them else wise you get Bush or Rubio or some other pathetic GOPe
Ethanol was developed as an extender. It was viewed as a real threat by the oil industry, till they got a piece of the action.
The best companies (of which my former company used to be one till they went chasing solar) used ethanol as a way to make cattle feed and CO2. That makes you a decent amount of money, and keeps your by products balanced.
What happened recently is that corn got so cheap the beef producers would rather feed high carb diets to the cows (corn alone is not good for them) than the normal ration. Many have scaled down. Also, the wet mills are not making as much sugar lately because we don’t drink as much soda as ten years ago.
Correct. If the Middle East just grew turnips, no one would care about them and Bin Ladin would have never been heard of.
That is also why oil prices are so low right now. If the US really got going on oil sand production, the Middle East would lose its only source of income. The countries don’t have any other economy.
The funny thing is that the two places placed to expand post oil are Iran (who has been under embargo for so long they had to develop something else) and Russia.
I am not anti-Trump but I also agree with Cruz that ethanol subsidies are bad.
Where do you classify me? :-)
There’s a difference between billionaire George Soros and billionaire Donald Trump, there’s a difference between billionaire Mark Zuckerschmuck and billionaire Donald Trump, there’s a difference between billionaire Mike Bloomberg and billionaire Donald Trump, etc. etc. etc.
So your little ‘billioniare’ blurb is all f’ked up. There’s no value in it. It’s not even worth fresh dog poop.
So you got it wrong. We elect a blue collar billionaire (as Mark Levin describes him) to clean up the corruption inside the Beltway. More importantly, we elect Donald Trump as a patriot of the highest order who has a proven track record of real performance, and who will end the capture of Washington DC by foreign billionaires and their K-Steet minions. Unfortunately for now, it takes a billionaire to go up against billionaires.
Then we can get back to electing people who have a track record of performance regardless of their wealth.
Right now the USS America is sinking and we need a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz to save it. After it’s saved and made seaworthy, less stellar men and women may be considered to be its Captain because all they need do is drive the ship and obey the rules of the road (Constitution).
Calling for more of it now is simply insane.
:)
What are the oil company subsidizes specifically?
Tax credits for developing sources of oil are very different than taxpayer funds for an inefficient (energy source) destructive government mandate which raises costs to the taxpayers.
Specific as to what the subsidy Cruz supports. IMO you are blowing smoke out of your butt like Trump.
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