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Discovery items suggest cops shot people as they crawled, where they fell
RadioLegendary ^ | 11/24/2015

Posted on 11/24/2015 4:40:38 PM PST by Elderberry

AUTOPSY REPORTS AN AMERICAN GOTHIC OF PAIN, SORROW

"We don't want to distrust our law enforcement so much that we live in fear of getting shot on a lazy Sunday afternoon." - an investigator

Waco - No one associated with the community of grieving bikers and their families touched by the tragedy of a police "shoot-out" at Twin Peaks on May 17 is surprised by the facts as they trickle out in dribs and drabs.

Calling certain items "discovery" is as ridiculous as the ethnocentric notion that Columbus "discovered" a civilization that had an advanced architecture, celestial observatories, calendars and a knowledge of complex mathematical principles. The best one can do is consider the fact that he was headed somewhere he'd never been, wound up somewhere he didn't expect to be, and had no clear idea exactly where that was. Add in the fact that the entire expedition was financed by a woman - and what do you have? El Dorado, and a whole lot of silver, to boot.

Let's not go there; we're already there.

But it's the oral history of the mothers and grandmothers, their children - the extended family - that will count in the future.

Jerry Couger, "Big Jake" Rhyne's "grandmother by marriage" got in contact, asking, "Jim, who do you think is Red Boots?..."

A good question, it's fair to ask when you've lost someone you loved, and there are pictures of a man with a rifle in hand, standing by while that loved one died from gunshot wounds of the type.

"There is a joke, sort of, once you are a part of our family you will never get out of our family. In most cases that is true." She goes on to recite a litany of misfortune that has a common theme. The family closes ranks, even when divorce splits the houses, suicide leaves its legacy of self-murder, and disease renders its members helpless, dependent on others.

She mourns the way that family lost Jacob Rhyne to a bullet that left a quarter-inch entry wound that pierced the muscle on the left side of his neck, injured his jugular vein, then arced downward to penetrate the seventh cervical vertebrae. Witnesses who know better than to come forward say Rhyne was in the act of looking around the corner "to see what all the commotion was about" when the bullet found him. The path of a second wound makes it clear he was gut shot after he was down, the bullet entering the "abdomen 31 inches below top of head, trajectory front to back, right to left, and upward."

A brother Cossack gave his recollection in a video, saying he and other bikers came to Jake's rescue, moving him from where he lay prone across the parking lot at Don Carlos, carried him to a pickup truck, and tried to wheel him to a waiting ambulance before police stopped them. "He was a lot of man," the old boy said, recalling the struggle to move the helpless giant.

"John Wilson," a former motorcycle shop owner and President of a local Cossacks chapter, "told my granddaughter they wouldn't let them take Jake to an ambulance, nor come get him. He said Jake lived 30 to 45 minutes. Makes me sick. I loved Jake; I was his favorite OLD woman."

The autopsy report notes a "red abrasion and contusion" in the middle of his chest, consistent with "resuscitative efforts."

"I have read the .223 wounds were from an AR-15 or M16. I have no doubt it was a setup. We can't bring Jake back, but there has to be justice for murdering him. This won't happen in McLennan County. When you see the biker that has been shot on the tailgate of a truck, that is Jake. I am all but positive the guy we are calling Red Boots shot Jake..."

A medical examiner characterized his death as a "homicide."

Reports from DPS officials and Waco Police outline what kind of setup that may have been, but first, it is well to consider the manner in which Rhyne and eight other men died.

Jesus Delgado Rodriguez appears to have been executed while seated on a slight embankment, a bullet inscribed on its bottom as 15-8021 over the further inscription CS entering his left eye, plowing through his head and exiting under his scalp. Its path, front to back, slightly downward. A bullet entered Wayne Lee Campbell's head and wound up in his "trunk," suggesting its path was from the top down. Richard Matthew Jordan died when a bullet pierced his head "four and a quarter inches below the top" and a half-inch right of the posterior midline. Richard Vincent Kirschner , Jr., sustained two bullet wounds to his buttocks, one of which shattered his femur, the other piercing the right medial thigh. A third bullet entered the back of his left knee. Manuel Isaac Rodriguez died of a bullet wound to the right front of his head, the projectile lodging in the musculature of the left side of his neck behind the sixth cervical vertebrae. Charles Wayne Russell died when a bullet wounded him in the right side of his chest, plowed through the auricle of his heart's atrial chamber, clipped his lung, pierced his aorta, and exited his back. Matthew Mark Suit caught a round in the right side of his back, the bullet wounding the sixth and seventh thoracic vertebrae. Daniel Raymond Boyett sustained a wound from a quarter-inch bullet in the top of his head, another in his left temple, and a third in his abdomen.

NEXT:

If the "shoot-out" was a set-up, what do documents and reports generated by police tell us about preparations for what they expected would be a violent confrontation between motorcycle clubs they have termed "criminal gangs?"


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1 posted on 11/24/2015 4:40:38 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

FUblm ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9EKqQWPjyo


2 posted on 11/24/2015 4:43:25 PM PST by soycd
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To: Elderberry

Yes, it was a total set up. An ambush. A massacre.


3 posted on 11/24/2015 4:44:38 PM PST by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Elderberry

So has “Red Boots” been identified?


4 posted on 11/24/2015 4:51:35 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Elderberry

0bama wants to take out American bikers so the Cartels and Hezbollah will have free reign.

Hence the incredible bond.

Law Enforcement murdered these people.


5 posted on 11/24/2015 4:52:06 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Elderberry

I don’t understand. I thought gangs shot each other. Where is it suggested that cops executed people? What was the set up?


6 posted on 11/24/2015 4:53:13 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Elderberry

“Columbus “discovered” a civilization that had an advanced architecture, celestial observatories, calendars and a knowledge of complex mathematical principles.”

That would be Hernan Cortes and the Aztecs, not Critoforo Columbo and the Taino on Hispaniola.


7 posted on 11/24/2015 4:57:26 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Tenacious 1

Look at the sourcing. There is no evidence presented, only speculation.


8 posted on 11/24/2015 4:58:26 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Elderberry

Marking...


9 posted on 11/24/2015 5:01:01 PM PST by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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To: Tenacious 1
Where is it suggested that cops executed people?

The caliber of the bullets recovered during the autopsies. If they were 5.56/.223 instead of pistol/revolver caliber slugs, then the shots were most likely fired by the LEO's/Feds.

10 posted on 11/24/2015 5:04:20 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: USNBandit

Speculation; and not well written. Thus, it meanders off into a convoluted slam of Columbus. It all smacks of nonsense.


11 posted on 11/24/2015 5:04:54 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: DBrow

“Calling certain items “discovery” is as ridiculous as the ethnocentric notion that Columbus “discovered” a civilization that had an advanced architecture, celestial observatories, calendars and a knowledge of complex mathematical principles.”

Te concept of discovering a civilization, advanced or not is not ridiculous anymore than it is ridiculous to discover a new animal or land mass. The author is just an America hating fool.

“The best one can do is consider the fact that he was headed somewhere he’d never been,...”
Is that bad, or unusual? Its called exploration.

“...wound up somewhere he didn’t expect to be, ...”
That’s an integral part of discovery, exploration and the search for knowledge.

“...and had no clear idea exactly where that was.”

Not unusual for an explorer”

” Add in the fact that the entire expedition was financed by a woman – and what do you have?”

Is it bad or even relevant that the expedition was financed by a woman? This guy intends to bash Columbus but it comes out as nonsense.


12 posted on 11/24/2015 5:10:43 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: Elderberry
The descriptions in the article make it sound like the shots came from 'above' or 'overhead'.

How could that be ?


13 posted on 11/24/2015 5:10:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

And where are those ballistics reports?


14 posted on 11/24/2015 5:16:54 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: USNBandit

“Look at the sourcing. There is no evidence presented, only speculation.”

Exactly. For example they present no evidence that “red boots” killed Jake, yet they are sure that he did. Its a pretty useless article.


15 posted on 11/24/2015 5:17:29 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: Elderberry

“If the “shoot-out” was a set-up, what do documents and reports generated by police tell us about preparations for what they expected would be a violent confrontation between motorcycle clubs they have termed “criminal gangs?””

More likely a slow and methodical retribution.


16 posted on 11/24/2015 5:19:23 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Elderberry

These mostly sound like shots from trained shooters, not bikers.


17 posted on 11/24/2015 5:23:11 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Elderberry
Officer "Red Boots"?


18 posted on 11/24/2015 5:34:13 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: DaxtonBrown

Or shot at very close range. The step son of one of the Cossacks said he saw his father shot at point blank range when he was on the ground by a Bandido supporter. One of the guys on the sealed indictments claims he was shot by police even though he was standing right by that dead Cossack, who he said was his good friend. It’s all very confusing.


19 posted on 11/24/2015 5:39:25 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Travis McGee

“Red Boots” Ping.


20 posted on 11/24/2015 5:59:02 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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