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New clues emerge about the earliest known Americans
Vanderbilt U ^ | November 18, 2015 | Liz Entman

Posted on 11/21/2015 10:27:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The stone tools discovered by the team were similar to what Dillehay had previously found at Monte Verde. Many were simple unifacial tools -- meaning they were worked on only one side of the stone, to create a sharp edge -- though some of the younger tools and projectile points indicate bifacial technologies...

The bones tended to be small fragments, broken and scorched, indicating that the animals had been cooked. They often came from very large animals, like prehistoric llamas or mastodons, as well as smaller creatures like prehistoric deer and horses. The Monte Verde site was unlikely to have been able to support the kind of vegetation that those animals needed to eat, so they were likely killed and butchered elsewhere. The objects were radiocarbon dated and most were found to range in age from more than 14,000 to almost 19,000 years old.

The wide scattering suggests that the people who created these features were nomadic hunter-gatherers who might have camped for only a night or two before moving on... Dillehay believes that they may have come through Monte Verde because the terrain was more walkable than the surrounding bogs and wetlands, and because it provided access to stone to make tools.

A key goal during this visit was to better understand the geological and environmental context of the site. At the end of the last ice age, Monte Verde was a sandur plain -- a runoff area situated about six kilometers away from a glacier, crisscrossed by a network of shallow streams and brooks fed by rain washing off the glacier, as well as melting snow. It was also a time marked by volcanic activity and a gradually warming climate, as the last glaciers began to retreat.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.vanderbilt.edu ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: clovis; godsgravesglyphs; preclovis; solutreans; tomdillehay
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A pebble tool with a bifacially knapped and retouched edge. The stone, called serpentine, is not a local material but likely comes from the coastal cordillera west of Monte Verde. It was found at the older site, MVI, and was made 17,000-19,000 years ago. (Courtesy Tom Dillehay)

Courtesy Tom Dillehay

1 posted on 11/21/2015 10:27:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ...

2 posted on 11/21/2015 10:27:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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The Tom Dillehay keyword: The David Meltzer keyword:
3 posted on 11/21/2015 10:31:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Pre-Clovis?
Uh oh.


4 posted on 11/21/2015 10:33:16 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The only answer to this is boats. Humans reached Australia 50,000 years ago and even with 300 foot lower sea levels, Australia/New Guinea would have been over the horizon of the sea. The technology used to get there could easily have travelled up the coast of Sundaland, to the Philippines peninsula, the Taiwan/Japanese peninsula/coast, to Northeast Asia/Kamchatka, then Alaska and then down the West coast of the Americas.

Assuming a Sundaland launch point of slightly South of East Timor, then a boat being paddled only 5 miles North per generation would reach Alaska in just a couple of millennium. So that would put us at around 47,000 years ago. The earliest date at Monte Verde is 19,000 years ago. Plenty of time to paddle South!


5 posted on 11/21/2015 10:40:21 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: SunkenCiv

—— like prehistoric llamas or mastodons, as well as smaller creatures like prehistoric deer and horses.-——

Hmmm.... no dinosaurs?


6 posted on 11/21/2015 10:42:38 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: bert

Not for 64.9 million years or so.


7 posted on 11/21/2015 10:54:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Darksheare

Yup, big trouble for somebody. :’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/preclovis/index


8 posted on 11/21/2015 10:56:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/ancientnavigation/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/kelphighway/index


9 posted on 11/21/2015 10:57:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Darksheare

This will get very interesting.


10 posted on 11/21/2015 10:59:52 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: Darksheare

Negro River? Study is obviously MACRO-aggressive imperialist junk.

11 posted on 11/21/2015 11:03:52 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

!!!
LOL


12 posted on 11/21/2015 11:11:09 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Fightin Whitey; Darksheare
I am soooo screwed. For more than fifty years I've been using this for my drafting and free hand drawings.

Matbe I'll just turn the bottle around so that just the German part of the label shows schwartz.

Oh damn! Now I'll have Whoopi Goldberg on my case

13 posted on 11/21/2015 11:24:46 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who passing refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Fightin Whitey; Darksheare
I am soooo screwed. For more than fifty years I've been using this for my drafting and free hand drawings.

Maybe I'll just turn the bottle around so that just the German part of the label shows schwartz.

Oh damn! Now I'll have Whoopi Goldberg on my case

14 posted on 11/21/2015 11:25:35 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who passing refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
dude...that box from China is....YELLOW!

Plainly more imperialist RACISM!

I'm afraid you are going to have to find a new vocation. One that is remunerative enough to cover your sadly overdue REPARATIONS.

15 posted on 11/21/2015 11:32:54 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: SunkenCiv

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After storm flows recede, many stones show up in the two creeks that flow through our property that could easily be taken to be tools; far more so than the two examples posted.

Tools designed and manufactured by tumbling stones in a stream.
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16 posted on 11/21/2015 11:34:09 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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The Solutreans keyword:
17 posted on 11/21/2015 11:53:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I will posit this to you in hope that other may comment. Why is there a goodly percentage of the so called native Americans in the North East that Have R1b DNA.

There are also a few that have I M253 the Viking gene. The answers I have seen is that it resulted from interbreeding I don't think so.

18 posted on 11/21/2015 1:59:13 PM PST by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: SunkenCiv

A link to a Map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup#/media/File:World_Map_of_Y-DNA_Haplogroups.png


19 posted on 11/21/2015 2:03:11 PM PST by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: Covenantor

You are such a racist! You should have demanded the manufacturer change that name.


20 posted on 11/21/2015 2:08:46 PM PST by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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