Posted on 09/06/2015 4:56:42 PM PDT by dayglored
Children are being raped, citizens murdered, and lost souls trafficked for sex and the police can't do anything about it thanks to Apple and Google, senior government lawyers and a top cop have claimed.
In an op-ed in The New York Times, Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr; Adrian Leppard, commissioner of the City of London Police; Paris' chief prosecutor François Molins; and Javier Zaragoza, chief prosecutor of the High Court of Spain, said that the current situation is unsupportable and legal changes are needed to keep the public safe.
"The new encryption policies of Apple and Google have made it harder to protect people from crime," they wrote.
"We support the privacy rights of individuals. But in the absence of cooperation from Apple and Google, regulators and lawmakers in our nations must now find an appropriate balance between the marginal benefits of full-disk encryption and the need for local law enforcement to solve and prosecute crimes."
The quartet of inquisitors cited an investigation into a murder case that was getting nowhere because police couldn't unlock the victim's phone, cases in New York involving child abuse and sex trafficking that are being stymied by the privacy systems Apple and Google run, and pointed out that the Charlie Hebdo case in France where cellphone data was vital to tracking down the terrorists.
(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...
But allowing ILLEGALS to rape and kill them is okay
Hopefully, Apple and Google won’t cave.
PING!
You could blame all manner of things for that, from Islamic immigration to our hedonistic societies, so why is government concentrating on encryption, eh?
Twenty years ago they made the same kind of noise when they were pushing the Clipper chip. Well, cops still found ways to get the goods on bad guys without it
“Won’t someone please THINK ABOUT THE CHILLLLLLLDRENNNN! “
You know it’s a damnable lie when you hear it from the left AND the right.
| "We support the privacy rights of individuals. But in the absence of cooperation from Apple and Google, regulators and lawmakers in our nations must now find an appropriate balance between the marginal benefits of full-disk encryption and the need for local law enforcement to solve and prosecute crimes. "The new encryption policies of Apple and Google have made it harder to protect people from crime"
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Then contradicted themselves with:
| Charlie Hebdo case in France where cellphone data was vital to tracking down the terrorists. |
Same BS , different day.
Butt ,Butt, Butt, IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!! "
Government is there to prosecute crimes.... under rules established hundreds of years ago.
Stick with what is authorized, government. Don't over-reach.
Some may get away with it, but that how it plays out.
Better that 10 guilty go free than one be falsely convicted.
Listen, Johnny,
Your good sense, although welcome here by *most here, is against those other things which government is for. Namely, that none ever successfully take them to task for how they go about doing whatever it is they say they must, unless they (the government) give advance permission to do so when or if the government can get away with that sort of blanket prohibition about talking about, for example; blanket "fill-in-the-blank" cookie cutter arrest warrants.
To even suggest anything else is to make of yourself a *supporter of criminals* of the worst sort.
Congratulations. You are now bumped higher in the watch-list rankings than you were even before.
Is that a copy of the Constitution in your pocket, or are you just some kind of domestic terrorist?
To hear some of (but not all) LE supporters tell it, if they were to use the same reasoning (if one can call it reasoning) which those supporters have used against others here on FR, and apply that to yourself, and to the rest who are resistant to LE attempts to force encryption keys be given over to faceless & nameless LEO's, then you, JRandom, would be a supporter of child molesters.
/johnny
/johnny
You and I have a luxury.
There's not all that much they can do to us, and neither of us are important enough to warrant the worst of what could be possibly ginned up against us.
What are they going to do? Kill me? Already covered...
/johnny
This made me laugh. Marginal benefits? Really? The benefits are marginal, because the government doesn't like not being able to access something. I personally have all of my hardware encrypted in some way or another. I've tried to move hard drives to other boxes and forget that I have to unencrypt the disks before I do it.
This article just proves to me that government agencies still aren't where they want to be with computing power capabilities for decryption, and encryption technologies are getting better every year.
ISTM that some around here think that "the present emergency" (whatever it may be today) gives gov't leave to take whatever action it deems appropriate and necessary. e.g. the depredations and perceived threats of a defined subset of citizens (outlaw motorcycle gang).
In Texas, they passed a law that specifically addresses this. Texas organized crime law
This is the law that 177 were charged under on 5/17/15 in Waco. At the time, the indication was that this charge would soon be followed with additional charges, such as murder, manslaughter, assault.
Everyone understood that it would take a few days to review evidence and sort things out and get the actual bad actors charged with their actual crimes and drop the holding charge on those who did nothing except to be present at a public accommodation and dive for cover when the bullets started flying. We were told by Waco PD info officer, Patrick Swanton that Waco PD WANTED the info released. We are a week short of four months and the wall of silence continues. Oh, did I mention?... Not a peep from the Feds.
All this and much more is well documented in the wonderful FR Archives - search keyword: waco.
WARNING: From the get-go, the "few others" that BD mentions have been very busy; first trying to get ANY discussion of the matter barred by site ownership. Failing that, a small number continue to make a huge number of posts. They defend the LE narrative (such as it is) and that's fine.
However the troublesome thing is that they continually portray us who want to look at the due process aspects (probable cause, no excessive bail, being faced by accusers, gag orders...) and at holding LE accountable of being "supporters of criminal gangs".
The reader should draw his own conclusions as to the motivation for such.
I think a majority here already have, and it's not against yourself, perhaps most in particular.
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Thanks, dayglored
Whatever... beechess
I find it difficult to trust any article that lumps Apple in with Google on this subject. Particularly when only one of these two corporations has quite literally given the NSA a direct line into their data...
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