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Apple and Google are KILLING KIDS with encryption, whine (U.S. Government) lawyers
The Register ^ | Aug 12, 2015 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 09/06/2015 4:56:42 PM PDT by dayglored

Children are being raped, citizens murdered, and lost souls trafficked for sex and the police can't do anything about it thanks to Apple and Google, senior government lawyers and a top cop have claimed.

In an op-ed in The New York Times, Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr; Adrian Leppard, commissioner of the City of London Police; Paris' chief prosecutor François Molins; and Javier Zaragoza, chief prosecutor of the High Court of Spain, said that the current situation is unsupportable and legal changes are needed to keep the public safe.

"The new encryption policies of Apple and Google have made it harder to protect people from crime," they wrote.

"We support the privacy rights of individuals. But in the absence of cooperation from Apple and Google, regulators and lawmakers in our nations must now find an appropriate balance between the marginal benefits of full-disk encryption and the need for local law enforcement to solve and prosecute crimes."

The quartet of inquisitors cited an investigation into a murder case that was getting nowhere because police couldn't unlock the victim's phone, cases in New York involving child abuse and sex trafficking that are being stymied by the privacy systems Apple and Google run, and pointed out that the Charlie Hebdo case in France where cellphone data was vital to tracking down the terrorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: apple; encryption; google; governmentspying; windowspinglist
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Won't someone please THINK ABOUT THE CHILLLLLLLDRENNNN!

Yeah, right, they want to take away our encryption because they're thinking about the children. Uh-huh...

1 posted on 09/06/2015 4:56:42 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: ShadowAce; Swordmaker; ThunderSleeps

Possible ping list interest....


2 posted on 09/06/2015 4:57:05 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; Alas Babylon!; amigatec; ...
You don't need no steeenkin' encryption, says the gubmint ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

3 posted on 09/06/2015 4:59:36 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

“The new encryption policies of Apple and Google have made it harder to protect people from crime,”

Which means we want to read all your stuff to look for a crime.


4 posted on 09/06/2015 5:04:10 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: dayglored

The reason the government does not want us to be able to communicate in private is because they know that sooner or later, we will be trying to oust these communist/socialist usurpers.


5 posted on 09/06/2015 5:04:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: dayglored

When encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption.

Just like “gun control”.


6 posted on 09/06/2015 5:05:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dayglored
"The new encryption policies of Apple and Google have made it harder easier to protect people from crime government."
7 posted on 09/06/2015 5:08:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: dayglored
Government isn't there to protect citizens from crime.

Government is there to prosecute crimes.... under rules established hundreds of years ago.

Stick with what is authorized, government. Don't over-reach.

Some may get away with it, but that how it plays out.

Better that 10 guilty go free than one be falsely convicted.

/johnny

8 posted on 09/06/2015 5:16:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: dayglored

Meanwhile, they are cracking skulls of babies at PP.


9 posted on 09/06/2015 5:17:38 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: dayglored

The authorities have lost the trust of the people. Had more competence and honesty been displayed in recent years, people would be more amenable to allowing govt. backdoors. The problem is that we can’t trust these guys to only use the backdoors in situations like the article brings up.


10 posted on 09/06/2015 5:19:06 PM PDT by Empire View
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To: dayglored

Children are being raped, citizens murdered, and lost souls trafficked for sex thanks to the feckless Barack Obama whose policies have made it all possible.


11 posted on 09/06/2015 5:22:26 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: dayglored

Translation: We can’t spy on Tea Partiers.


12 posted on 09/06/2015 5:23:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dayglored

We The People have not granted any level of government blanket ability to read our correspondence or listen to our conversations. We The People have reserved privacy of our communications to ourselves.

We The People have granted various levels of government investigatory powers pursuant to a valid warrant. And those powers are adequate.

Government is the problem here. It’s that simple.


13 posted on 09/06/2015 5:37:33 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: dayglored

When a government announces it want to doing something “for the children”, it means its intentions are nefarious.


14 posted on 09/06/2015 5:43:54 PM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Made it hard to track your income and spending habits.THAT’S what they worry about,that dollars might slip through their grasp.Kids getting raped-they couldn’t give two sh-ts about that.


15 posted on 09/06/2015 5:44:09 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dayglored

I couldn’t make myself read the whole article, I as my son would say when he was three “can’t want to!” But did they manage to work guntrol in there too?


16 posted on 09/06/2015 5:49:02 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Yep, agree right down the line.

Great to see you online Johnny. How ya doin'? You're still in my prayers.

17 posted on 09/06/2015 5:50:59 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: catnipman
> When encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption.

Yep, 'zactly.

18 posted on 09/06/2015 5:52:11 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: catnipman
Yup. Whole thing can be described in just a few characters. Heck, when the patent for RSA expired the owner celebrated by giving away T-shirts with it printed on:


19 posted on 09/06/2015 6:13:48 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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To: dayglored
Won't someone please THINK ABOUT THE CHILLLLLLLDRENNNN! Yeah, right, they want to take away our encryption because they're thinking about the children. Uh-huh...

Every time I hear one of these "Can't we please ignore that pesky Constitution??? It's for the cheeeeeelrunn, after all" schemes, I don't get it. Do they not think there were children in Colonial times? Apparently THOSE children weren't so fragile as to require unfettered government for survival. Why would I want to save such genetic mistakes anyway? They'd probably vote Democrat and spawn a new generation requiring erasure of whatever still exists of the Constitution by then. I really don't see the upside. Seems like we should just grieve for them and get busy replacing them, not repeal the Constitution.

20 posted on 09/06/2015 6:26:58 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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