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Obergfell V. Hodges - NO JURISDICTION!!!
djf

Posted on 09/05/2015 2:51:59 PM PDT by djf

Guess what, folks?

The case of Obergfell V. Hodges that the Supreme Court ruled on?

Here is an exact quote from the United States Constitution that talks about the judicial power:

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;— between a State and Citizens of another State,—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

Now, is this a case "arising under this Constitution..."

No.

Does it affect ambassadors or public ministers?

No.

Is it a case of admiralty or maritime jurisdiction?

No.

Is it a case where the United States is a party?

No.

Is it between two or more states?

No.

Is it between states and a citizen of a different state?

No.

Is it between citizens of different states?

No.

Is it between two or more citizens of the same state claiming land under a grant?

No.

Is it between a citizen or a state and a foreign country?

No.

Nothing left over! The court had no jurisdiction to even hear the case!


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1 posted on 09/05/2015 2:51:59 PM PDT by djf
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To: djf

So, what else is new?


2 posted on 09/05/2015 2:53:52 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: xzins

ping

Now What?


3 posted on 09/05/2015 2:55:40 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: gorush

Because without jurisdiction, a courts ruling is void. A nullity.


4 posted on 09/05/2015 2:55:46 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf
Now, is this a case "arising under this Constitution..."

Of course it is.

The plaintiffs asserted that the laws of Kentucky violated Amendment XIV, which says, in part, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So, the question of whether or not State marriage laws deny equal protection to homosexuals absolutely "arises under [this] Constitution".

The result, of course, is ridiculous - but to hear the case is within the scope of Article III.

5 posted on 09/05/2015 2:56:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: djf

Many of us have said from the beginning that the Supreme Court has no legal authority to rule on this—NONE. It hasn’t stopped this lawless Court in the past, though.


6 posted on 09/05/2015 2:57:06 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: djf

Good luck with that.


7 posted on 09/05/2015 2:57:07 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: djf

Is the 14th amendment part of the constitution?

Yes.


8 posted on 09/05/2015 2:57:35 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: djf

As Al Gore would say, “There is no controlling legal authority.” Sad, but true. Maybe the GOP will step in and act...yeah, right.


9 posted on 09/05/2015 2:58:06 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: djf

LIKE


10 posted on 09/05/2015 3:07:43 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: djf
The Supreme Court is capable of declaring a 16-year-old boy from China as the next US president.
Just because.

The Court has no need to read the Constitution. They just decide stuff.

Haven't you noticed??

11 posted on 09/05/2015 3:08:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me.)
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To: djf

Since Marbury v. Madison the USSC has been left to interpret what they will including questions of jurisdiction.

The Article V States Movement is anathema to the USSC in its perceived power as mentioned above.


12 posted on 09/05/2015 3:10:19 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Jim Noble

So, the question of whether or not State marriage laws deny equal protection to homosexuals absolutely “arises under [this] Constitution” …
No, it does not. Unless one wants to invalidate stuff like Reynolds versus United States and other like rulings; and the First Amendment was not even a consideration per Kennedy. Kim Davis is now denied equal protection of the laws as well as her First Amendment rights thanks to this lawless ruling sans jurisdiction.
13 posted on 09/05/2015 3:11:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: djf

Great! Now we need a Governor of any state (name yours) to say, “The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over this case. The decision is therefore null and void in the state of _____ and will not be enforced.”


14 posted on 09/05/2015 3:16:15 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: mosaicwolf

Sounds OK to me!

Listen, everyone. If you ask the Federal Courts if they have jurisdiction, what the hell else do you expect them to say?
They will say it’s a no-brainer, of course they have it.

But from my reading of the judicial power, I do not see anything that says that.
Period.


15 posted on 09/05/2015 3:21:14 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: djf

So we now appeal to the Super Duper Extra Supreme Most Glorius Court?


16 posted on 09/05/2015 3:21:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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Be sure and let Predident Gore know about this.


17 posted on 09/05/2015 3:30:20 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: djf

Be sure and let President Gore know about this.


18 posted on 09/05/2015 3:31:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: Jim Noble

[[So, the question of whether or not State marriage laws deny equal protection to homosexuals absolutely “arises under [this] Constitution”.]]

Not so much- homosexuality is not a right anymore than pedophilia is a ‘right’ - it may be ‘allowed’ but it is not a right protected under the constitution

[[So, the question of whether or not State marriage laws deny equal protection to homosexuals absolutely “arises under [this] Constitution”.]]

Does the question of whether state marriage laws deny equal protection to pedophiles the right to marry underage children “Arise under this constitution’ as well?

Of course not because pedophilia, just like homosexuality, is established as a morally deviant practice- just because m ore and m ore people practice it, and more people accept it doesn’t make any less morally deviant- This country had a set of objective moral laws that are not open to the courts subjective opinion.

“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;”

This can not stand as their defense because pedophiles, bestiality practitioners, polygamy practitioners, necrophilia practitioners etc can then ALL make the same case. If one immoral practice/lifestyle can suddenly be declared not immoral, then ALL must be- because “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;” according to the twisted defense of homosexuals on this issue-


19 posted on 09/05/2015 3:33:32 PM PDT by Bob434
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Now, is this a case "arising under this Constitution..." No.

A claim that a state law violates the 14th Amendment is a case "arising under this Constitution."

20 posted on 09/05/2015 3:34:53 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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