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24 million viewers is a double-edged sword. Good for short-term profit, yes. But Roger Ailes and the Pharisees of the GOP have no idea of how much permanent damage they have done to both their brands by colluding to bring down Trump.
1 posted on 08/09/2015 4:03:18 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray

I think you may be right...but it goes a lot deeper than just trying to bring down Trump - it’s their entire formula of gotcha questions and the preening and hogging all the air time for themselves, the disrespect for Cruz and the condescending attitude towards all of them by these pompous jack asses.


2 posted on 08/09/2015 4:09:19 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: AdaGray

Sure, people watched, but I doubt independents and undecideds learned anything from this farce.


3 posted on 08/09/2015 4:10:29 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: AdaGray

I expect many of them tuned in to see Trump, and those that did watch the day’s lead up could have figured out that Fox as an entity was out to get him.

Regardless, they got the viewership that any of the big three, MSNBC, or CNN would kill for. Problem is they wouldn’t have gotten that because that same group would have automatically expected it to be a hit job from them.

It think what this one debate has done is to sledge hammer that little pin of suspicion some might have had about Fox as RNC establishment booster. I know it finally settled it for me. Virtually their whole lineup is in the bag for GOP appeasement, go along get along voter backstabbing.

As far as that “brilliantly insightful intelligent” Megyn Kelly, a b!tch is still a b!tch, even if she’s a smart and beautiful one.


4 posted on 08/09/2015 4:12:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: AdaGray

-— But Roger Ailes and the Pharisees of the GOP have no idea of how much permanent damage they have done to both their brands-—

True. This morning I tuned into our crappy local news instead of F & F.


7 posted on 08/09/2015 4:15:41 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: AdaGray

Excellent point. It is a night I’ll not soon forget.

This could have been both FOX and the RNC’s time to shine, but instead it may well have been their swan song.

Time to reap the whirlwind. But they both deserve it.


8 posted on 08/09/2015 4:16:31 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: AdaGray

I will continue my practice of flipping through news channels (and ads with Ron Paul selling alarmism, gold, or some such thing!) in order to find where the spin intersects. I shall also endeavor to vote for candidates who support a strong border and sensible policy, I shall also continue to consider Libertarians as coming from a rival political party.


12 posted on 08/09/2015 4:19:41 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Trump 2016)
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To: AdaGray; All

It is too bad that FOX also is now as biased as the rest, but we all knew (from past experience) these candidates would have to face a hostile media corps, with their loaded and gotcha questions, sooner or later. Might as well be now.

If anything, at least the Republicans will be battle-hardened by next year, while Hillary is still getting the creampuff treatment from “The Press”.


18 posted on 08/09/2015 4:26:53 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: AdaGray
My parents were still watching a lot of Fox News as far as I knew, but when I asked my mother - who was for many years a local GOP stalwart - a somewhat smart-aleck question about Megyn Kelly, I got a surprise. It turns out that she and my dad have actually cut their Fox News viewing down a lot, because everything is now either some "loudmouth Democrat" or "one of those crooked Republicans who aren't much better" (her exact words). In a nutshell, neither one of them - dad has always been a Democrat, BTW - trusts Fox News anymore, and Thursday's debate sure didn't help.

When you've lost my folks, well…

Mr. niteowl77

22 posted on 08/09/2015 4:41:42 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("I wish I had better news for you, but the truth is that this thing is not worth fixing anymore.")
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To: AdaGray

Fox was never ‘fair and balanced’. This merely showed its true colors - ‘unfair and unbalanced’.


26 posted on 08/09/2015 5:02:57 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: AdaGray

Do any other Freepers remember when Bret Baier, then a cub reporter for Fox News, was late to the party in announcing the verdict of the OJ Simpson CIVIL trial? As I recall, the verdict was written on a piece of paper and held up to a window (court house window?) and the reporters scrambled to read it and report it out to the viewers. Baier was frantic because he couldn’t read it. Anyway, my memory is hazy on this event, but I think that I have it basically correct.


27 posted on 08/09/2015 5:04:28 AM PDT by Salvey
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To: AdaGray

24 million viewers received the message of some fine conservative candidates and the clear message that Fox wants to destroy all of them!


30 posted on 08/09/2015 5:24:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AdaGray

It’s a one shot deal that doesn’t alter their ad rates. All they get is a moment of bragging rights...and seething jealousy from other networks.

Wait a month to see real effects of Fox’s debacle, especially the prime time news.

Just might be some push back.


36 posted on 08/09/2015 6:49:15 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: AdaGray

You know the question she asked would be like asking Obama why he quotes and uses phrases from Communists.


37 posted on 08/09/2015 6:49:43 AM PDT by dila813
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To: AdaGray

Liberal media outlets are dying because of liberal bias.

Now Fox risked shooting itself in the head (ruining it’s brand) in front of it’s biggest audience - 24 million viewers. For what? Jeb Bush? Political correctness? Egos? Was it worth it?

They would have been better off in the long run, had only 3 million viewed their socialist spaz attack they named a debate. Now, millions of independents who never watch Fox (or any news) just had their suspicions confirmed.

And now many conservatives who expected a real professional debate on important topics are done with Fox. These are people who watched Fox. The performance was so unprofessional...so radical Democrat Liberal media. CNN may have done a better job or at least not worse.


42 posted on 08/10/2015 6:28:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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