They did have tariffs... as high as 25%.
Posted on 05/19/2015 10:33:26 PM PDT by iowamark
Even while the Civil War raged, slaves in Cuba could be heard singing, “Avanza, Lincoln, avanza! Tu eres nuestra esperanza!” (Onward, Lincoln, Onward! You are our hope!) – as if they knew, even before the soldiers fighting the war far to the North and long before most politicians understood, that the war in America would change their lives, and the world.
The secession crisis of 1860-1861 threatened to be a major setback to the world antislavery movement, and it imperiled the whole experiment in democracy. If slavery was allowed to exist, and if the world’s leading democracy could fall apart over the issue, what hope did freedom have? European powers wasted no time in taking advantage of the debacle. France and Britain immediately each sent fleets of warships with the official purpose of observing the imminent war in America. In Paris, A New York Times correspondent who went by the byline “Malakoff” thought that the French and British observers “may be intended as a sort of escort of honor for the funeral of the Great Republic.”
...the French forced Benito Juárez, the republican leader, to flee the capital and eventually installed the Austrian archduke Maximilian as emperor of Mexico.
European conservatives welcomed the dismemberment of the “once United States” and the bursting of the “republican bubble” that, beginning with the French Revolution, had inspired revolution and unrest in Europe. Republicanism had been in retreat in Europe since the failed revolutions of 1848, and some predicted that all the wayward American republics would eventually find their way back to some form of monarchy, or seek protection under European imperial rule. When Lincoln, in the darkest days of the war, referred to America as the “last best hope of earth,” he was hardly boasting...
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Where did you buy your Chrystal Ball?
Yea, you're right, those damn ungrateful Irish just didn't know how good they had it < /sarcasm>:
I do not judge Lincoln harshly because he was a racist but because he was a tyrant. I chastise 21st century buffoons who deify a slimy sleazy wanna bee dictator and slip a golden glove of racial virtue on a real POS.
You have a logical fallacy of cause and effect. There is nothing that can be tied to the War Between the States (as an event) that provides clear linkage to our current straits of the overreach of federal government. It can only be a matter of speculation. And that same speculation can draw a straight line from the “success” of the csa to the very same circumstances we find ourselves in now.
We failed to contain the leftists and allowed them to redefine the scope of federal authority. It happens with every republic sooner or later.
And we all know how well treated blacks were in most of the North post war:
Not to even mention electing a thoroughly corrupt big government Marxist as their Governor.
Your comic-book characterizations never fail to elicit a chuckle general. Don’t go changin’ ;’)
They weren’t treated very well. But they were treated better than the unified Jim Crow laws of the south.
The Virginia legislature is overwhelming Republican that is why I favor Article V and repealing the 17th amendment.
The virtuous Abe freer of the black man is the comic book characterization here.
How many of the children and grandchildren of those Irish "slaves" were in bondage? How many were sold? How many Supreme Court decisions stated that Irish-Americans were not and could never be citizens?
They did have tariffs... as high as 25%.
But we're talking about the South and all those thousands and thousands of stalwart Black men who fought for her freedom, or so the story goes. And the way you all rewarded them for their courage and loyalty. Not.
And in your article, just about all the examples were pre-war and not post war. But if your point is that there was just a whole lot of bigotry towards blacks in the North then I certainly am not disputing that. What I disagree with is your apparent belief that it was only in the North.
And both their senators, too. Don't forget that.
And for good measure I'd throw in Confederate Veep Alexander Stephens's quote about slavery being "the cornerstone of the Confederacy." All to no avail.
Basically it's banging your head against a brick wall trying to convince the diehards.
I know that. I’m just saying that the CSA apologists seem to think the government could run forever on hot air, that taxes would not be necessary.
It’s my contention that if the CSA had broken away, taxes would of necessity been much higher in both it and the USA.
Indenture was not “inflicted” on anyone, with exception of a few who were kidnapped and sold into indenture.
I believe it was darn rare, if it even existed anymore, by the time of the war.
Yeah...whatever.
At least you guys keep in shape.
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