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Real Comprehensive Immigration Reform
3/18/15 | Joe Lynch

Posted on 03/18/2015 3:50:40 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg

Comprehensive immigration reform that will fix our broken immigration system:

1. Secure our borders and ports and provide verifiable metrics
2. End the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment
3. Make eVerify mandatory and enforce it with large fines
4. Reduce legal immigration quotas and end chain migration
5. Deport illegals upon contact with any law enforcement agency
6. No local, state or federal government benefits of any kind
7. Any health and/or other care billed back to the home country
8. Lifetime ban on path to citizenship for anyone who entered illegally
9. Make illegal entry a felony


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; bordermetrics; illegalimmigration; immigration
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Need to circulate this post across the USA.
1 posted on 03/18/2015 3:50:40 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg
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To: westcoastwillieg

That’s immigration reform I can get behind.

In order to continue their illegal presence in our country, illegal aliens must break many laws in addition to breaking into the country.
Do not fall for the red herring of “otherwise law-abiding” illegal aliens. That is a myth and a lie.
They must have fraudulent documents.
If they are using someone else’s SS number, that’s ID theft.
They are driving without licenses and insurance.
They are voting illegally.
Collecting benefits illegally.


2 posted on 03/18/2015 3:57:09 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: westcoastwillieg

I think that is pretty much what the American people always had in mind when they said they wanted “immigration reform.”

Liberals/Democrats, of course, took the words “immigration reform” and twisted them to impose open borders—everything the people do not want—so that they could publically campaign on the issue without actually supporting it.

Liberal/Democrats do this kind of linguistic bait-and-switch all the time. If they ever say they support a popular idea, dig a little—chances are, they’ve stuck its name onto some tired old socialist trope, like a façade hiding the pig pens.


3 posted on 03/18/2015 4:05:56 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: westcoastwillieg

Doesn’t address government not doing its job for since last amnesty. Poorly thought out rant.


4 posted on 03/18/2015 4:07:15 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: westcoastwillieg

Doesn’t address government not doing its job for since last amnesty. Poorly thought out rant.


5 posted on 03/18/2015 4:07:21 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: westcoastwillieg

Doesn’t address government not doing its job for since last amnesty. Poorly thought out rant.


6 posted on 03/18/2015 4:07:30 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: westcoastwillieg

Great new laws...or are those old laws?


7 posted on 03/18/2015 4:12:20 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: westcoastwillieg
I disagree on some, wholeheartedly supported most. 1. Secure our borders and ports and provide verifiable metrics Good. Fences make good neighbors

2. End the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment Not up on this much, but illegal+illegal = illegal (always), and citizen+citizen=citizen (always, but probably unforeseen exceptions). Citizen+green card=citizen with exceptions, and Citizen+illegal='a naturalized' citizen as if the infant went through the green card process.

3. Make eVerify mandatory and enforce it with large fines

Exemptions and special considerations for immigrant agricultural workers ala Ronald Reagan program of guest worker

4. Reduce legal immigration quotas and end chain migration

Reducing and eliminating H1B visas is higher priority then reducing immigration allotments. I don't know what chain migration is.

5. Deport illegals upon contact with any law enforcement agency

States just arrest and turn over to INS. I don't want any state to have deportation rights. Then INS deports them.

6. No local, state or federal government benefits of any kind Just the minimal amount of humanitarian benefits such as food, water, and I daresay palliative medical care I.E No free Cancer therapy. Temporary shelter until deported, and having basic humane Constitutional protections -- not full Constitutional rights.

7. Any health and/or other care billed back to the home country Yes.

8. Lifetime ban on path to citizenship for anyone who entered illegally

No. Poorly written laws become tools of oppression.

9. Make illegal entry a felony

How about just illegal entry is criminal misdemeanor unless it's combined with charge of another felony nature like a violent crime, then it elevates to a felony.

8 posted on 03/18/2015 4:13:17 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (If you're not leading, you're struggling to be relevant.)
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9. Make illegal entry a felony

And, since the judicial system seems to love mandatory sentencing, I'd add a mandatory minimum of 5 years in a federal super-max penitentiary with all costs billed back to the home country.

9 posted on 03/18/2015 4:13:40 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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Ordinarily I detest the word “comprehensive” since it is always code language by the left and McCainiacs for, “All we really want is amnesty ... “ but here it is used right.


10 posted on 03/18/2015 4:22:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: westcoastwillieg

What about dual citizenship? How can you be a loyal citizen of two countries or more?


11 posted on 03/18/2015 4:48:28 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: This I Wonder32460

Granted I’ve met many folks who are dual citizens, yet as someone who has only one loyalty, I worry . . .


12 posted on 03/18/2015 4:49:48 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: westcoastwillieg

Damn, I like those nine points. I wish someone on our side would see those, believe in them, and say, “that’s my plan I will implement.”


13 posted on 03/18/2015 5:04:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: exDemMom

This is why actions speak louder than words. They may say the same phrase, but it means something totally different to them than it means to you.


14 posted on 03/18/2015 5:06:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I don't know what chain migration is.

From Numbers USA
Chain Migration is about family reunification beyond the nuclear family. Until the late 1950s, America's immigration tradition of family unity had only included spouses and minor children.
But since then, the law has been changed to enable immigrants to also send for their siblings, parents and adult children.

15 posted on 03/18/2015 5:11:26 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: This I Wonder32460
What about dual citizenship? How can you be a loyal citizen of two countries or more?

Some people, like my son, are dual citizens due to their parents' actions.

I was a sailor stationed in Rota, Spain at the time of my younger son's birth. Spain grants citizenship to all children born there (I'm not sure whether this extends to illegal immigrant children, but I was there legally). Thus, my son is a dual citizen, even though he does not speak Spanish or remember Spain. I do not think that US law recognizes his dual nationality, but Spanish law does.

16 posted on 03/18/2015 5:57:56 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The majority of the one million legal immigrants to the US each year, come based on having a relative here, rather than the skills or wealth they bring with them. That is chain migration - one comes, who brings their relatives, they bring their relatives, etc., in an endless chain.

Rich, well educated, young adult immigrants contribute the most to the economy. Chain migration brings in lots of older, less skilled and poorer people.

As an example, an Afghan Interpreter is given an immigration visa, in recognition of his dangerous service in war. He brings his wife, and has three kids. When he gets citizenship in five years, He brings his parents, and his wife brings her parents. Their parents bring all their remaining children under 21 with them. Six years after a single visa is issued, 17 new immigrants are in the USA. Many are old, sick and unable to speak English. Some are not even literate in their own language. Every five years when immigrants get naturalized, they can sponsor another wave of relatives.

Merit-based immigration, that most countries on Earth use, and which the USA used prior to 1965, prioritizes those who can contribute the most to this country. Family visas are limited to spouse and children.


17 posted on 03/18/2015 5:59:07 PM PDT by BeauBo
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5. Deport illegals upon contact with any law enforcement agency

That makes the US known as the place to go to commit crimes - the worse we'll do is give you a free trip home. For those caught for specific crimes we would be better off amending this to "Deport illegal aliens after appropriate investigation, prosecution, and time served."

7. Any health and/or other care billed back to the home country

Nice idea but good luck. We have trouble getting China and some other countries to even take back their illegal aliens.

8. Lifetime ban on path to citizenship for anyone who entered illegally

What about those who entered legally (on one of a variety of non-immigrant visas) with the intent to stay and/or work in violation of the terms of their visa? They shouldn't get a free pass or a chance at citizenship either.
18 posted on 03/18/2015 6:12:48 PM PDT by posterchild (It takes a politician to declare a settled science.)
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To: posterchild

worse=worst


19 posted on 03/18/2015 6:13:32 PM PDT by posterchild (It takes a politician to declare a settled science.)
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To: BeauBo
Merit-based immigration, that most countries on Earth use, and which the USA used prior to 1965, prioritizes those who can contribute the most to this country. Family visas are limited to spouse and children.

Sen Ted Kennedy was instrumental in getting that law changed in 1965 and opened the floodgates for illegals to come here.-Tom

20 posted on 03/18/2015 6:19:07 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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