[FatherofFive]

That helps explain why 81 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers have died in West Africa to date.

This keeps getting worse every time I check. If it spreads to Lagos, watch out world.

[Smokin' Joe]

Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

The Democrats are pumping in immigrants everywhere they possibly can in an attempt to get political control, disease be damned. Let's get tuberculosis, Ebola and maybe a revival of Smallpox going. Now, if you really want to wipe out the pesky opposition, just start an epidemic of Smallpox. Worked for the Spaniards. By the way, ALL Mexicans are vaccinated for Smallpox to this day.

Saw the limb off on which you are sitting seems to be their best strategy anyway. If you can't have total control, then make sure no one else does either. I mean, can't we all be Detroit?

[txrefugee]

Another crime by the wishful thinkers in D. C. They knew about the airborne transmission of Ebola since monkeys caught it through the ventilation system in a research center in VA years ago.

[ClearCase_guy]

I’m waiting for a jihadi to intentionally infect himself, then strap on a suicide vest and aerosolize himself in a crowded environment. To the world, it would look like a standard suicide bomb. But 3 or 4 weeks later, the survivors in the crowd will have symptoms. And over those 3 or 4 weeks, a much larger group will have been exposed.

[goodwithagun]

What? The CDC is wrong? I wonder what else they might be wrong about?

[Jim Noble]

This is becoming more confusing, but mostly because of one word which is being used in two different ways.

“Airborne” has a specific, technical meaning when used to talk about preventing infections. It means a disease caused by tiny particles that are small enough to remain suspended in the air for hours and which remain infectious for most or all of that time. If Ebola was airborne, in that sense, we would know it already.

The common sense meaning of “airborne” is, you can get it through the air, by breathing or by contact. That is certainly true of Ebola, particularly when the source patient is splashing the walls with blood and diarrhea.

[Morgana]

Oh no, Ebola is an airborne virus. I have known that for years.

[null and void]

Time to restart yesterday's conversation, I guess...

Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

[PghBaldy]

If it truly was airborne, Obama would shut the borders. Does anyone think DC would let an airborne killer come in, knowing they and their families would be at risk?

[The Sons of Liberty]

Airborne Transmission of Ebola

There were a number of people, including many on this forum, who have been very quick to criticize those of us who pointed out the "sudden" change in narrative that perfectly fit the 0bama regime's importing of ebola into the US. Amost overnight that "strategy" went from isolating ebola in africa, because it was highly contagious, to throwing open the doors to bring it here. Along with is, the narrative went from "high contagious" to "can't be spread through the air".

Curiously, though, when the infected do-gooders were brought here, there was double bagging - infected in a spacesuit and medics in a spacesuit. Now, if ebola can only be spread through contact, why did they do this?

[Cold Heat]

The Canadian Health Department states that airborne transmission of Ebola is strongly suspected and the CDC admits that Ebola can be transmitted in situations where there is no physical contact between people, i.e.: via direct airborne inhalation into the lungs or into the eyes, or via contact with airborne fomites which adhere to nearby surfaces.

Well, it's logically true that projectile vomiting, inadvertent spittle, and things of that nature could land on surfaces and or attending medical personal, (which is why they wear masks and shields, or should be, but that transmission is not considered to be airborne and it does not travel very far.

The term "airborne" is being misused here (again) to give one the impression that distance is not a factor.

But it is..

The same claims were made regarding the Reston outbreak with monkeys and they could not prove it there either as the only evidence was some excited utterances and opinions of a staff member.

If someone wants to believe that you can catch Ebola from a patient by being in the same building or somewhere downwind, they certainly can. But that idea, along with many other "ideas" are just speculations with no basis in fact.

On the other hand, we do have a idea how these medical people are getting infected and there is even visual evidence for that, showing that they were/are reusing their protective equipment. (masks, gloves and gowns) This leads to speculation that they may not have it available all the time. Total body, eye and face protection is mandatory with this type of disease, as are protocols for the donning and doffing of them. If you want to speculate, I would speculate in that area and not on "airborne" transmission.

[nomad]

http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html check out this tid bit of info.

[Nip]

The lies behind the “official” Ebola transmission sources was obvious to anyone who spent more than 30 seconds thinking about.

If the doctors, nurses, and workers were taking all of the precautions shown in various videos taken during the outbreak’s initial weeks how were they getting infected?

I don’t know about the rest of you but I don’t go around wearing full medical gowns covered in plastic with eye goggles and a mask of some sort. Nor do I disinfect the surfaces of those items prior to moving on to another job or disrobing.

I am beginning to think that what the Government and LMSM are feeding us is designed to keep us calm. See articles and books about the 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic to see how various nations, world wide, initially tried to handle the situation.

The only proven successful way to prevent the Spanish Flu from gaining a foothold was, as practiced by Japan, American Samoa, and New Caledonia, through quarantines and restrictions on international travel entering and leaving their territories.

Drastic acts then and now.

But, with Spanish Flu infection rates up to 50%, spreading across the US in a week (travel by train was the fastest way) and an estimated morality rate to 10-20% of those infected were they really? More importantly will they be?

[Vermont Lt]

I did not want to read this on a beautiful late summer Sunday.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Interactive map showing up-to-date spread through West Africa:

Click here.

[Yaelle]

To me it appears contagious viruses are contagious the same way, with a continuum of degrees. If you drank from the same glass of an AIDS patient, you won’t catch it. But you could catch a stomach virus or a flu or Ebola. It’s all “bodily emissions to bloodstream” isn’t it? How much of the fluid, and how much exposure to the bloodstream is the only difference.

[Kartographer]

Impossible there have been any number of FReeper ‘experts’ swear that the only way you could get Ebola was to have sex with an infected person for three days and then eat their brain anything else they insist is pure hype and scare tactics. Now can we get back to the game?

[Veto!]

Some FReepers have read the 20-year-old bestseller, The Hot Zone, which describes in detail the grisly deaths of hundreds of monkeys kept for experimentation at a Reston, VA facility. Ebola Reston most assuredly spread from one closed monkey room to another via air ducts.

A few people were exposed, one slit his finger through layers of heavy gloves while dissecting a monkey carcass riddled with ebola virus threads. He did NOT get ebola, nor did anyone else.

[Gamecock]

In the past cohple of days I have passed through airports in Hong Kong,Taipei and L.A.

In both of the Asian aiports there were health officials scanning the masses that were arriving. In Taipei they had infared cameras pointed right down the corrider that people needed to pass through. Hong Kong might have had the same and I just didn't notice.

Guess what LAX had? </rhetorical question>