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Stanek weekend question: Should Chick-fil-A cater to abortion clinics?
Jill Stanek ^ | Jill Stanek

Posted on 08/09/2014 7:37:58 PM PDT by Morgana

On August 2 pro-life abolitionist Caleb Head, a member of Abolish Human Abortion, observed a Chick-fil-A catering truck making a delivery to Houston Women’s Clinic. According to Head, this abortion mill is the busiest in Houston and 4th busiest in the country….

AHA initiated phone calls and online activism to admonish this Chick-fil-A, located at 3101 West Holcombe Avenue, to repent and never do this again.

Head’s father, Pastor Scott Head, wrote a letter to CFA Holcombe’s owner, Juli Salvagio, who responded:

Our restaurant was simply fulfilling a catering request. Our goal is to serve great food with genuine hospitality to all guests. We have no political or social agenda.

We strive to serve everyone with honor, dignity and respect.

Pastor Head, in turn, responded:

[T]he ruthless killing of babies by abortion is not a political or social matter, it is a barbaric practice that all decent people ought to be concerned about.

You represent a company that has a particular learning and reputation toward Christian ethics, whether you are a Christian or not. Your company, though you are an independent owner, still represents the founder’s ethic. Knowing other independent franchise owners personally, I know they are free to do as they wish, but wise owners also support the general business and brand perception. Chick-fil-A will surely suffer, and your business in particular, if you stand by and give Nazi-esque answers when confronted about supporting abortionists like Rosenfeld’s HWC.If you remember, the Nazis who serviced the holocaust perpetrators also said “we are simply fulfilling a business order.” Yet these same businesses (like BASF, who supplied Zyklon B to gas Jews, for example) were held responsible by courts for war crimes.

Here’s AHA’s pictorial position:

Chick-Fil-A caters Houston's largest abortion clinic

Is Chick-Fil-A, which catered to a huge abortion clinic, quivalent to Nazi's?

In this video Caleb shows a clip of the original confrontation with the Chick-fil-A delivery person, who it turns out was manager Robert L.

In the video Caleb refutes complaints he has received from Christians, such as that we are instructed in Proverbs 25:21 to give our enemies food and water if they are hungry and thirsty, pointing out abortionist Bernard Rosenfeld and his staff are by no means starving or dying of thirst.

What do you think Chick-fil-A should have done when getting the catering call from an abortion clinic? How far should Christian and/or pro-life-owned companies go to avoid complicity with abortion?

For that matter, how far should we as individual pro-lifers go to avoid aiding and abetting abortion?

Coincidentally, here’s video via Life Dynamics of a different caterer who turned around and left when he realized he was delivering to the Houston Planned Parenthood.

Be sure to take the poll as well as lend your thoughts…


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; chickfila; prolife
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To: latina4dubya

That would be up to the franchise manager


21 posted on 08/09/2014 8:43:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: latina4dubya

That would be up to the franchise OWNER


22 posted on 08/09/2014 8:43:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Morgana

No. Starve them.


23 posted on 08/09/2014 9:43:03 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: virgil283

“If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink : Proverbs 25:21”

I’ll buy that.


24 posted on 08/09/2014 11:04:03 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Theo

Cakes are in no way part of the wedding ceremony. By the time you have cake (or cupcakes, or doughnuts, or whatever else is in fashion at the moment), you are entirely married.

If you went home after the ceremony, you’d be 100% married.

This is the exact same thing.

That said, I don’t know pretend to what the answer is. I’m never sure that micromanaging who you will and won’t serve food to is a viable idea for just this reason.
Where do you draw the line?
How far into the private business of customers do you pry?
Is there any value in showing them goodness and kindness?

I don’t know the answers, and I have worked with the pro-life movement for many years.

All I can tell you is that I have never been rude or nasty to anyone and won them over. I have disarmed several anti people by showing myself to be calm and kind. They don’t expect it and never know what to do with it.


25 posted on 08/10/2014 12:00:58 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: Morgana

Sadly no one at the clinic is breaking the law. So, yes, sell to them.


26 posted on 08/10/2014 3:24:50 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Morgana

Abortion clinics value chicken eggs more highly than human eggs.


27 posted on 08/10/2014 3:46:49 AM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: Morgana

Sigh - a priest “activist” (writing letters is the next best thing to inaction). He may be justifiably outraged, but I side with the business on this one. I find it interesting that the baby-killing folks aren’t boycotting Chik-Fil-A.
Perhaps the priest would do better by holding prayer meetings outside the abortion place instead of writing scathing letters...


28 posted on 08/10/2014 4:13:36 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GeronL
Chik-fil-A does not discriminate in who they hire or who they sell franchises to or who they serve.

Chik fil A absolutely "discriminates" in who they sell franchises to. You obviously have no idea what they do in that regard.

To be "awarded" a Chik fil A franchise, one must be a Christian, preferably married with children, an active participant in one's home church and a whole lot of other requirements.

To be awarded a Chik fil A franchise, the applicant must undergo a year long process under direct supervision of a Chik fil A Senior Manager, the applicant's family life is scrutinized, so are their finances and a whole lot more.

Chik fil A franchises cost a whopping $5,000 and there are over 25,000 applicants for franchises each year for somewhere around 15-20 new restaurants each year.

You cannot say Chik fil A doesn't "discriminate" in who they award franchises to, they absolutely do and that's their right.

29 posted on 08/10/2014 5:27:36 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
What It Takes To Become a Chik fil A Franchisee
30 posted on 08/10/2014 6:33:44 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Morgana

Why not work it into the menu and sell “aborted chicken sandwiches”...crikey...does the left ever get tired of playing with dead babies?!? What a great lot of ghouls...


31 posted on 08/10/2014 7:09:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mountainbunny

“Cakes are in no way part of the wedding ceremony.”

It was hard to get past that first sentence. Of course WEDDING cakes are part of the WEDDING ceremony. The reception is a big part of the ceremony, the opportunity people have to affirm and support a couple that has just married.


32 posted on 08/10/2014 5:02:18 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Theo

No. Wedding cakes are part of the tradition after the ceremony. You’re married without the cake.

Some people don’t even have cake.

The reception is a tradition that some people participate in, but not everyone has a reception, either.


33 posted on 08/10/2014 5:46:55 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny

Not sure why this is even a “thing” for you. By definition, a “wedding” cake is directly related to the “wedding.”

My point: Providing food (sandwiches) to people who are engaging in systematic immoral behavior ... is different from providing food (a wedding cake) that is an integral symbolic element in a gay “wedding” celebration. The gay couple cuts the cake and feeds it to each other as part of the ceremony, right? It’s a ceremonious activity, an important symbolic element of some wedding ceremonies.

My point: CFA did well to just serve the sandwiches to the baby killers. And the baker did just fine by choosing *not* to participate in a gay “wedding” by not providing a wedding cake for a gay couple ...


34 posted on 08/10/2014 6:50:49 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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