Posted on 08/08/2014 4:18:53 PM PDT by Kartographer
What’s most bizarre and frustrating about all of this is that neither the U.S. government or the Centers for Disease Control have provided any actionable information or advice to the American public. They maintain that they have the facilities to stop any such outbreak and continue to tout the narrative that there is nothing to fear, because they have it all under control.
Should even one single case pop up in a random U.S. city, that narrative will fall apart instantly. If someone in Georgia, Ohio, New York or any other state checked themselves into a hospital and are found to be infected with Ebola it will prove without a shadow of a doubt that all CDC containment efforts have failed.
In such an instance where Ebola is found to be in the “wild” anywhere in the continental United States you can be certain that panic will follow.
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I watched this series about surviving disaster: pandemic. It shows you how to survive a biochemical attack and how to shelter in place after a contagion is loose.
http://www.spike.com/episodes/dxhbrm/surviving-disaster-pandemic-season-1-ep-109
I also bought the accompaning book for the series, and have just lent it to a neighbor who I want to keep prepared.
And for years, I also have in my side yard niche where I have a shelf for my pool equipment, a first aid kit and decontamination supplies, dishing washing soap, sponges, etc., a change of clothes in case we come home and have to clean off if we suspect we have been contaminated.
A diet rich in olive oil and fish oil will help ward off the Ebola virus. Make sure it’s cold water fish like sardines and mackerel.
I agree that they aren't as solid walled cans as they used to be .
The "PULL TOP" lids seem to be thinner and less secure, but I wanted to run that observation by you .
I used to stock up on "Pregresso" canned soups, which seem to be 'thicker walled' cans for LTS, until I read the nutritional label and saw the sodium content.. WOW !
I bought "Stagg Chilli" at Sams/ Wal-Mart,LTS sturdy can, best tasting chilli I ever had !! Nutritional table says it has almost 2 1/2 times daily sodium per serving. Dam !
I have learned my lesson !
Go READ THE NUTRIONAL TABLES on Long Term Storage (LTS) cans if you have medically restricted diet, or have self-imposed dietary concerns!
They may be great tasting .. for your survivors !
For me , .. I am going to go to LTS with store brands with solid tops which need a can opener
Which reminds me , I need two additional can openers
LDS church has online ordering for food storage, and you don’t have to be a member (as far as I can tell). It’s already packed for 20-30 year storage for most items, and the prices are reasonable. I haven’t checked shipping because I buy from them locally. The quality is good too - the potatoes, oatmeal, flour, macaroni, and sugar taste as good as major brands, even years later. I’m a little annoyed with the rice because it takes a little more water than the label directions claim and still doesn’t taste quite as good as typical rice. Their milk powder (20 years?) is good too but not available online yet. Their apple slices are fruit, and last forever, but not something I would eat often except for the nutrition. According to rumor, they will have onions and carrots with 20 year or 30 year shelf lives fairly soon (whatever that means).
I wouldn’t store just the LDS food, but it is a cheap and comparatively compact way to store massive amounts of calories for several decades. For variety, I have oats, wheat, potatoes, and rice in roughly equal amounts. Once you have that, it’s easy to supplement the beans, sugar, and starch with MREs, spices, cans, and hunting/gathering for other needs.
"Be Prepared " used to be the motto of the Boy Scouts (BSA) , as well as learned through our grandparents who had survived the 1930's Economic Depression.
As a result of Katrina ,hurricanes , and regional floodings and storms, many are content to wait for FEMA or Governmental assistance;
we ,as a nation ,seem to have lost our own self-resourcefulness, self-reliance, and self-responsibility that our ancestors had .
Do you remember pantries (LTS), root cellars (garden preserve), coal bins (cold season heat), summer kitchens , and milk boxes, fruit vendors(daily delivery)??
Parents learned to garden ,do canning ,improvise meals out of almost nothing out of necessity; they learned from many sources that we no longer have available to us today.
Take a lesson ! Prepping becomes a choice of life-style, not just a singular event, or a singular crisis.
This is not the time to panic ; just go about your daily business , but continue to grow in several skill sets.
Be Prepared ..Be Aware of what issues may adversely affect you (job loss, excess debt, medical concerns, insufficient LTS ) and take action for self-responsibility.
Don't rely on just one book or movie ; expand into any area that you might have need for to secure your own independence.
“I don’t use (NSA approved) Google...”
Often we (me, others) say ‘google’ as generic for search engine. One I like is StartPage. But if I said ‘startpage it’ many would not understand.
And btw, I like your screen name, is there a story behind it?
I just found this rocket stove competitor at Territorial Seed Company...
http://www.territorialseed.com/category/Biomass-Products/?r=NWEAUG2_7
There is also a coffee pot that fits the unit and a large pot, both available for sale as well.
I like and use Startpage, DuckDuckGo, and IXquick.
None of these search pages track you with cookies.
I especially like IXquick (https:) as you can visit websites thru "proxy' settings, and is programmable .
The Screename is combination of: pheremones, hormones, Jameison's, ethnic identity, ethnic stereotype, and arthritic condition from football (US = soccer).
I don’t have an LDS store close, so I just order on line. It’s been about 6 or 8 months since our last order. You do not have to be a member to order, and there was no shipping charge.
I haven’t ordered since they started selling the apples on line, but I do plan to get some of those too. I don’t store just LDS items either, but I don’t have any MRE’s.
I have plenty of stuff that you can just eat out of a can if you have to, and quick soups, fiber bars and other stuff that we use on a regular basis for situations when we are pressed for time or too tired to cook.
I bought a bunch of powdered milk with 20 year shelf life from several internet sources when they were on sale at 3 bucks a gallon or less. Fresh milk is now above 4 bucks at our local Walmart.
I ordered my rice from Walmart.com. It was on sale at a decent price, and I repacked it in Mylar bags with O2 absorbers, and put them in food grade plastic buckets.
Like I said, I like the kits for long term. It’s all food that we would normally eat anyway along with the other stuff we buy or grow.
I buy chickens and pork on sale and pressure can it. Keep about a year’s supply on hand. We have beef in the freezer. If we would ever have an extended power outage, we could use our generators to run the frig, freezer, window air conditioner, tv etc.
We could also use one of our alternate cooking sources and pressure can the contents if we needed to. Most of this was not started as a prepper thing, it was just our way of life, and frugal living. Buy stuff on sale, grow your own, and preserve it to get through our winter.
We camped out a lot when we were younger, so we just have a lot of useful stuff. When the market crashed and oil prices spiked we knew that higher food inflation would be along shortly, so we just increased the amounts in order to stock up on everything we could at the cheaper prices.
Then of course, it became a interesting question. What if we had to live like pioneers, and/or be totally self sufficient? How could we do it? Of course with our well and septic system we country people get a head start from city folk in a way.LOL
Anyhow I think the LDS website rocks, and am glad they are expanding it.
I watched the CSPAN hearing. From what I heard, if ANY skin is exposed, you can be infected?
So not just from a cut/open wound? Anyone have any information/clarification on this?
That's my understanding. In addition to a face shield and bunny suit, I'd double glove.
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I’ve megadosed on vitamin c for 40 years. Since I was in grade school. I regularly take 10g, 30-40g+ every once in a while. No kidney stones no liver failure.
No crows feet or fine lines around my mouth either and I’m ~50yrs old now.
The older you get, the less able your body is to repair the daily damage caused by such megadosing and to keep up with the necessity of purging all of the excess.
Right now, the study of the effects of chronic overdosing of vitamins and minerals is a relatively new area. The preliminary results seem to be that such practices are harmful; I expect future and on-going studies to better establish and document what exactly happens to people who chronically overdose on vitamins and supplements.
The nutritional supplement industry is Big Business, make no mistake about that. They sell their products by downplaying the fact that your body does not need huge excesses of vitamins or minerals, it only needs enough, which (in most cases) is found in a balanced diet. According to Forbes magazine, the nutritional supplement industry pulled in $32 billion in profits in 2012, and is expected to top $60 billion by 2021. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidlariviere/2013/04/18/nutritional-supplements-flexing-their-muscles-as-growth-industry/
That is a huge business—of course they have strong financial incentive to keep convincing people to buy their products even though the science just isn’t there to support the practice.
I strongly suggest tapering off the vitamin C. Chronic megadosing throws off the body’s normal homeostatic mechanisms that keep the blood concentration of vitamin C at a constant level. Tapering off the megadosing will allow that system to reestablish at normal levels. You can get all of your vitamin C requirements by eating an orange or two every day, and oranges are a heck of a lot more tasty than pills.
Since you call yourself Black Agnes, I assume you are a black woman. In that case, you may need to take vitamin D supplements because the sun can’t penetrate your skin very well to make vitamin D. Your doctor can determine that with a blood test. The only supplements anyone ever needs are those which have been determined by testing to be low.
...daily damage...
I have kidney function tested on a 6m ongoing basis.
Every single test comes back perfect.
Read my profile to see the origin of my nic.
I’m mainly scots with about 1/8 native american thrown in for good measure. I tan exceedingly well for a ‘white woman’ but I’m definitely not black.
Linus pauling took vitamin C megadoses for decades. Lived to be 90 something. And if you look at his pictures taken just before he died, he does NOT look as wrinkledy as a 90+yr old normally would.
BTW, back in the day, my Johns Hopkins trained pediatrician gave my mom the OK with the vitamin C dosing. The Jury was out on preventing colds and flu but my mom was willing to try anything. His advice was to back off when the dose got to ‘bowel tolerance’ but that it couldn’t hurt otherwise. His own wife took C megadoses. He didn’t see any point. He died in his 80’s, his wife lived to be 100+.
Another unexpected anomaly. Every single one of my family (both parents, 3 of 4 grandparents, every uncle or aunt related by blood and a whole bunch of my first cousins so far) have heart disease and coronary artery disease. I have had many diagnostic tests on my heart and associated blood vessels (stress tests, blood flow diagnostics and ultrasounds) and to quote my doc, they’re ‘slick as snot on a doorknob’ inside. In spite of my being overweight, ~50 and diabetic and having atrocious family history.
The $32B in supplement profits is nothing near even a drop in the bucket compared to pharma profits. So that’s a non sequitor.
How much money is spent on the coffee habit of Americans each year? That’s all peed out expensively too.
They told me that because they had a wider selection to choose from now, and also because the starter kit was seen an introduction to the pre-pack program, the starter kit was no longer considered necessary. That's a shame. If you are looking for a smaller combination of items together, you can not get that but must buy larger amounts of individual items instead (by case). Could always split a purchase with someone though.
That’s too bad. It was a quick and easy way to stash a few months foods with out giving it too much effort. I think it was especially good for young people just starting out to get a good variety for a couple of people for a month or so at an affordable cost.
I have enough stashed, that I can probable just order a case of 3 or four items that I don’t have yet, and a replacement case of flour. One can lasts us for 2 - 4 months. Heavier usage during the holidays, when I bake more and we have company.
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