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Homeowners Association: Veteran Can’t Build Furniture For Military Families In Need
CBS News Las Vegas ^ | 7/24/14

Posted on 07/25/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by Kartographer

A war veteran who builds furniture in his garage and gives it to military families in need could be forced to shut down the saws.

A homeowners association is telling Dennis Kocher he needs to close up shop after years of doing business, or he could be fined between $100 and $1,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacramento.cbslocal.com ...


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To: bgill

In the article it says “Even as a nonprofit, the Vietnam veteran was told he had to get a business permit, which he did in 2012”. I suspect the HOA is notified by the county anytime someone gets a business permit on one of the properties. It may be a zoning issue as well. I think the root of his problem is that while he donates most of what he makes, he does sell some, probably to pay for materials. If he never sold anything I don’t think they could make him get a business permit.


61 posted on 07/25/2014 1:51:01 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe there’s a new HOA board and their lawyer advised them to shut this thing down to avoid future problems with other noxious odors.

The rub is, the HOA ingored a rule for 10 years (if it ever was a rule to begin with). The last I knew was rules ignored/not enforced over time could be considered no longer valid. I'd lawyer up and tell them to shove it.

62 posted on 07/25/2014 1:51:41 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

The easiest response from the HOA would be that they had no knowledge of what he was doing for ten years. If a homeowner complained about it and it was the first “official” notice they had, then they can probably proceed as if nothing had been going on for ten years.


63 posted on 07/25/2014 1:55:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: SandRat
They are fascist.
64 posted on 07/25/2014 1:58:51 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: sportutegrl

Now that was funny. You had me until the very end!


65 posted on 07/25/2014 2:14:22 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: NEMDF
As to the odors and noxious fumes.... I assume the HOA is also clamping down on anyone who dares to paint or re-stain their decks or fences. Also some yard service treatments emit odors that might be offensive to some sensitivities.

I don't do any varnishing or staining (yet) but I do Barbeque. Will they be clamping down on that next?

66 posted on 07/25/2014 2:33:16 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: oh8eleven

“I’m 99% behind this guy, but there’s that 1% of me that feels for the neighbors who might just be getting tired of all the hammering, power saws, sanders, and general noise all day, every day.”

I thought that it must be the noise too, but the article said he couldn’t paint either. I guess he could be using a sprayer.


67 posted on 07/25/2014 2:58:05 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: oldenuff2no

“There have been a lot of times I’ve been tired of listening to my neighbors kids screaming too. “

That’s why we’re buying 20-40 acres with a house in the middle.

Our neighborhood is very noisy. People get more rude and ‘entitled’ with each generation. Especially here in Mexifornia.


68 posted on 07/25/2014 3:02:32 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: lakeman

“This would be called a home occupation and...”

Some HOAs don’t allow working out of your home. Others allow it but have restrictions on noise, customer parking, etc.

This article is short on any real information.


69 posted on 07/25/2014 3:05:52 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer

HOA cannot tell a person what they can do in their garage.


70 posted on 07/25/2014 3:17:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: sportutegrl

LOL


71 posted on 07/25/2014 3:20:56 PM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: CodeToad

HOA can tell a person what they can or can’t do anywhere on the property. Read the CC&Rs before you buy. Many association prohibit running a business, washing cars inside the garage and a number of what normal people consider normal activities. Including making noise in the garage.

Make some loud noise and see if you get warned and fined.


72 posted on 07/25/2014 3:23:11 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Kartographer

Me neither. I am out in Yuma, blowin’ stuff up.

But I don’t own a gun...


73 posted on 07/25/2014 3:23:59 PM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: Kartographer

Well, I do have a 4 wheel drive (2 in fact), tons of camping gear, two bug out locations, a couple weeks of food, first aid kits and even have a prepper group put together. I have a total of 4 firearms and just a couple hundred of rounds of ammo. I do have reloading gear and a 3d printer that I’m working on printing AR lowers. I don’t have enough arms, ammo, food, tradeables, trash bags, water storage, electrical production, skills, com gear, etc, etc, etc. I don’t know that I ever will. Prepping is never and end state. It is a constant activity that is limited by time and pocketbook (and wife’s tolerance).

However, rest assured that I am NOT disappointed. You have looked at the situation and have started to take action to see that your family has a least some preparedness. You may not be able to last interdependently as long as others but hey. You are unlikely to be helpless. Every one who prepares even a little bit, means that when the SHTF, that is one less person who is going to be looking for a handout.


74 posted on 07/25/2014 3:31:14 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Kartographer

. No HOA for me.


75 posted on 07/25/2014 4:13:24 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Can you hear the cries of “MORE CAKE” echoing off the hills?)
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