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1 posted on 06/16/2014 1:31:25 PM PDT by lulu16
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To: lulu16

I don’t think she was punishing the two dragons—she was preventing them from going rogue like the black dragon did.


2 posted on 06/16/2014 1:35:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Thanks for putting a spoiler right on the front page.


3 posted on 06/16/2014 1:44:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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A lot of little things have been changed from the books. In my opinion, for the worse.

In the book Shae tells Tyrion she is glad to see him and he kills her anyway for betraying him. In the show, they couldn’t allow that ambiguity so they had Shae try to kill Tyrion.

They also change the reason Tyrion kills his father. It was because they told Tyrion his wife was a whore and they drove her from the city. Jamie was supposed to tell Tyrion the truth, that his wife really loved him and was not a whore.

But in the show, Tyrion kills Tywin for calling Shae a whore, but Tyrion had just killed Shae. I don’t see how these changes made the show better. They are trying to “simplify” everyone’s motives for the tv audience.

In the book when Arya refuses to kill the Hound in mercy she says “you should have saved my mother”.

It’s Tyrion and Varys on the ship together, not Pycelle.


4 posted on 06/16/2014 1:46:11 PM PDT by Williams
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I was pissed at the Hound vs Brienne fight. She wouldn’t stand a chance again him if he were full strength. They did a lot of foreshadowing of his wounds in previous episodes at least.
I don’t think he’s dead, both in the show and the books. GRRM shows you the death of the character and if they intentionally shy away from it there is a reason.
I agree though that this episode felt very rushed, and I didn’t enjoy some of the pivotal parts as much as I should have. They really need to move to at least 12 episode seasons.


6 posted on 06/16/2014 1:47:52 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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There’s been too much foreshadowing of the Hound’s hatred for his brother, the Mountain to let him die now.

I think we’ll see him again.

Satisfying that Aria is on a boat to Brazos and that Tyrian dealt with his father on the crapper.


17 posted on 06/16/2014 1:57:39 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: lulu16
Spoilers ahead

The Hound may not be dead. There was no fight between The Hound and Brienne, but Brienne does see somebody during her search for Sansa that many readers are pretty sure is The Hound, AFTER his apparent death, serving as a simple monk.

The Mountain is another maybe. The poison on the spear was a horrible one and The Mountain died in agony. However, Cersei's new pet non-Maester took the body for his studies, and later a new member of the King's Guard shows up - a HUGE man who never removes his helmet. Note that this is AFTER the apparent beheading of The Mountain.

I was a little saddened at the changes in Tyrion's escape and Tywin's death. Jamie, while freeing Tyrion, admitted the young girl Tyrion had married at age 16 was NOT a whore - that was a story Tywin demanded be told to force Tyrion to divorce the girl. That girl loved Tyrion, and when Tyrion demanded to know where she was sent, Tywin said "Wherever whores go" and got a crossbow bolt through the groin for his troubles. Tyrion hates Jamie now because Jamie was in on the secret and had lied to Tyrion all these years. As for Shae, in the book she was NOT in love in Tyrion but was a gold-digger, and her betrayal of Tyrion and showing up in Tywin's bed enraged Tyrion into strangling her.

19 posted on 06/16/2014 1:59:40 PM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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I say good riddance to The Hound. Glad Arya took the money bag off him. Good riddance to Tywin Lannister too. I’m looking forward to Cersei Lannister being done away with at some point, although I wonder whose hand it will be by? Arya’s? Sansa’s?


20 posted on 06/16/2014 2:02:27 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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I felt the episode was hurried in trying to close story lines, felt the whole thing was anticlimactic.

But.....

Brianne could never take the Hound, especially if he wasn’t injured. It’s unconfirmed, but that “battle” didn’t take place in the books and it was never made clear that he died either, so think what you will.

No I didn’t get all misty over roasted Ygritte, but I’m a guy, I preferred the cave scene.....

Stannis wasn’t a surprise because the red witch told him he had to be the one. The poor wildlings are trying to escape the white walkers so they are desperate.

Cercei will power grab and thats why Pycelle hit the road with the half man, basically “I’m out”. He knows a major $h!t storm is fixing to hit.

I’m sure what Doc Frankenstein is doing to the Mountain, but his “He’ll be changed” doesn’t sound like a good thing.
Perhaps he’ll be Cercei’s Hodor, ouch, perhaps another man Bran can control.

I liked the Elvis death Tyrell had, couldn’t have happened to a nicer character.

Little Missy is fixing to have problems all around, Dragons, Kingdoms and I want to go back to being a slave people. Mistake tossing your adviser, perhaps he’ll go back and be the Kings hand??? As an FYI, she’s going to be the new Sarah Conner in the Terminator reboot.

Stop Hate’n on Arya, she’s my favorite with vengeance as her operating system. Her trip to find the face changing guy will be an interesting new line.

Bran’s story is the one I’m most interested in, I can’t make you walk again, but you will fly. As long as he doesn’t become captain planet, then that will be interesting.

All I know is it’s a long time till the next season, just glad I’ve got the Walking Dead to look forward to.


35 posted on 06/16/2014 2:22:37 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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7.1 million viewers for the first hour. 9.3 million for the first hour, plus the two encore hours.

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3 cheers for Jamie rescuing Tyrion.

I would not count the Hound out completely yet. Frequently, those old timers have a way of coming back to life.

The battle scene surrounding Bran Stark was intense. We will probably see much more of that next season.

They need more episodes and less time between seasons.


43 posted on 06/16/2014 2:56:53 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Will there be a season five? YES! And Season Six!


45 posted on 06/16/2014 3:05:23 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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Great episode. The title was “The Children”. And it was true to that. From Janie and Cersei and Tyrion and what they all did to Tywin. Arya coming into her own. Dany, Mother of Dragons, disciplining her “children”. Ned Stark’s son Jon Snow and Mance. Great stuff.


54 posted on 06/16/2014 4:06:56 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: lulu16

There is no character named Anya.


57 posted on 06/16/2014 4:44:54 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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69 posted on 06/17/2014 5:39:04 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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