Posted on 03/28/2014 4:57:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
Some people think of tobacco as a drug, whereas others think of it as a therapy — or both. But for the most part, it's hard to find people who think of the tobacco plant in terms of its medical applications. Qiang Chen, an infectious disease researcher at Arizona State University, is one such person. His team of scientists conducted an experiment, published today in PLOS ONE, that demonstrates how a drug produced in tobacco plants can be used to prevent death in mice infected with a lethal dose of West Nile virus. The study represents an important first step in the development of a treatment for the mosquito-borne disease that has killed 400 people in the US within the last two years.
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I believe it has nothing to do with health, public safety, or any of the other reasons stated.
It has to do with power, control, and money.
I got west nile a couple of years ago. Now I know why I survived.
“For those who might someday need to know . . . if you’re ever really dangerously whacked out on psychedelics, tobacco will bring you back. Just saying.”
Three hog callings and a county fair and I aint never heard that one. Heck I was of a certain age for the 60s. Are you talking about the newer spice, bath salt, generation of synthetics?
Ear smoking, yeah my bride of thirty plus years requested that from me before we ever married.Hot smoke is efficatious for ear aches.
I keep an empty tallboy half full of water for an ashtray. Pour contents on fireant mounds. Repeat as needed.
Running out of ammo for the ants and using a vaporizer for my nicotine fix lately. I’m going to have to start buying commercial fire ant products. I use DE powder in the pastures, doesn’t do much more than annoy a horse, kills ants. Slow kill on a big mound or super colony. Diatomaceous Earth. I havn’t any idea if I have the correct spelling on that mouthful. Pool filter powder.
I vaguely remember seeing something relating the use of nicotinic pesticides to the diminishing population of honeybees.
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Did you have any of the lingering neurological effects that people talk about, numbness, temporary partial paralysis, mental fog or confusion? It sounds like a real trial, even after the initial infection passes.
No experience with some of the weirder new stuff, but all the native folks in the New World knew the role of tobacco in modulating peyote (mescaline), psilocybin mushrooms, and ayahuasca (harmaline + DMT).
Some of the really strong native tobaccos by themselves contain at least a useful amount of DMT, BTW - but even without that, tobacco alone was/is often used ritualistically as the truly great medicine for the direct link to the Great Spirit in prayer.
I have numbness anyway because of neck problems, but I haven’t noticed it to be any worse. It certainly was painful for 3-4 days.
So yours was relatively asymptomatic other than achy, flu-like symptoms? It can be a lot worse with some apparently having permanent neurological damage.
That dovetails with widespread anecdotal tales of mood modulation, if you’re tired it helps keep you alert, upset it helps calm you down, etc.
My quarter-Cherokee grandmother used fatback for drawing out infection, raw potato for drawing out foreign objects. She was a heck of a fisherman too, she’d spit snuff into the water, reach her big toe down off the dock and swirl it around, then the fish practically jumped on the line. She claimed it hypnotized them, lol. She made medicines from old-fashioned candy and corn liquor too. Horehound, lemon drops. Pretty strong stuff, hard to tell if you felt better from anything medicinal or because you were mildly drunk. Of course, many of the modern over the counter cough medicines are pretty much the same.
Exactly. A nicotine patch, BTW, is a great, but controversial, treatment for ADD. Certainly tweaks the dopamine system.
Also, recall the “kindness” of giving the condemned man a last cigarette before the firing squad, and such.
As with many substances - and many other things that can affect us as well - tobacco can be medicine or poison, depending on dose and such.
Me neither! Maybe it’s in our genes.
“No experience with some of the weirder new stuff,”
Don’t go there. My recolection is the first products to appear were from Pakistan, later from India.
Had a bud take a shotgun to his wife and best friend, in bed together. He was not a violent guy.
Maybe that was rational.
Had a relative relate his encounter with a demonic entity
I read of a couple of instances of, uh, assailants eating the face off of victims.
I got hit with this last year. Fortunately for me I have an industrial strength immune system, so it only knocked me down solid for 2 days. It came on me over about a 2 hour period. I went from being perfectly fine to being completely immobile in bed. Woulda killed my wife. Chemo just about killed her immunity to anything. gGod thing is, I’m safe from it now. Can’t get it again once you’ve had it from what I understand.
I would hope so, the other type would be kind of hard to get into a pot to boil down. Plus the folks you got them from would probably scream bloody murder and call the sheriff.
These days, everything known by human beings for centuries is considered bad; everything new is ipso facto excellent.
A society built along such lines cannot last long. Either the old beliefs and undertandings will return, or the society will fall.
Personally, I wouldn’t lay any odds either way.
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