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Living Trust And / Or Will
self ^ | February 24, 2014 | knarf

Posted on 02/24/2014 5:54:34 AM PST by knarf

I've come to a time in my life when I should make some decisions about what happens when I'm gone ...


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and I've got two thoughts in my head ... Living Trust and a Will

I can find a lot of information on line ABOUT these things, but I can't find anything (Pennsylvania specific) that I can download, fill in and have notarized.

Is this something that we are forced to get a lawyer involved or does anyone know where I can get some blank forms, legal enough that I can fill it in and look at it?

1 posted on 02/24/2014 5:54:34 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

One place for info:

http://www.legalzoom.com/


2 posted on 02/24/2014 5:56:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: knarf

Try LegalZoom.com


3 posted on 02/24/2014 5:57:36 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian; thackney

Yeahhhh ... I guess I should’a tagged my question with ... free


4 posted on 02/24/2014 5:59:10 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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Yes. My parents used a lawyer to create their revocable trust and wills. It is highly recommended.

A late friend of mine was an expert in land titles and deeds. She said a lot of problems with land inheritance had to do with incorrectly created trusts.


5 posted on 02/24/2014 6:01:10 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: knarf

I am not an attorney nor do i work in the legal field. I go to an attorney recognized in any aspect of the law industry (that is what it is) just like I don’t do my own dentistry or hair cutting among other things I am not skilled at. So, I would be careful being my own council on estate laws.

That said, if one has an almost zero estate, why not do your own. For those, the forms available on the net from any of the self lawyer sites probably are sufficient.

There is a pretty good section on trusts, wills, and the tax consequences of IRAs in the current issue of Forbes FWIW. A few things recently changed and for those having substantial Roth or regular IRAs being aware of the tax consequences and allowances is critical knowledge.


6 posted on 02/24/2014 6:03:26 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: SatinDoll
I should add ... I am;
me and my wife with a house and a couple of acres, no bank account, investments .. nuthin' ... just us living.

The kids are grown, so all I want to do is avoid probate and be sure everything can go seamlessly to my wife.

7 posted on 02/24/2014 6:03:33 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf
Most attorneys do this a a very reasonable cost...like $75 for a standard will.

You might just keep looking on line for info on a living Trust.

Don't forget....gifting some of your money is a good way to distribute it and it costs nothing.

8 posted on 02/24/2014 6:04:24 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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There’s specific PA law regarding these things.

There are a few law firm/organizations that service low-income seniors for these services.

The state wants low-seniors to fill out the forms so that doctors have what they legally need to stop their efforts when these situations come up.

It’s obviously aimed at saving money for medicare/medicaid.

I found what was needed by using google to search a couple years ago.


9 posted on 02/24/2014 6:04:43 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: knarf

Free Wills here:

http://www.totallegal.com/wills.asp?src=m3online


10 posted on 02/24/2014 6:05:13 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: knarf

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/what-is-a-living-trust.html


11 posted on 02/24/2014 6:08:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Free legal advice is like free medical care - you get what you pay for, knarf.

Why don’t you have the property put in BOTH your names? That’s what my mom and dad did.


12 posted on 02/24/2014 6:08:53 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: knarf

If everything is titled jointly everything should go seamlessly to your wife without a trust or will.


13 posted on 02/24/2014 6:11:08 AM PST by sheana
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To: knarf
A simple will should be sufficient and it takes care of the "medical directions" at the same time.

In regard to your children....give them at least $1 in the will.

Gifting is a nice way to give access funds to your children during your lifetime.

14 posted on 02/24/2014 6:12:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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check your local brick and mortar for a paper back from Nolo Press. They have all the paper work for advanced directives, trusts, wills, etc.

IF you have relatively small assists (house, bank account, savings) and it is clear cut what you want to do with them, it shouldn’t be a problem. If you have substantial assists then a lawyer or an estate planner is worth while because of tax considerations


15 posted on 02/24/2014 6:13:49 AM PST by Nifster
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Both; and pay an attny, its worth it, cause if you screw something up it may negate the whole thing


16 posted on 02/24/2014 6:16:01 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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The most important document you will need is a durable power of attorney and a health care surrogate. Avoid the living will if at all possible, and repo it back from your doctor’s file. The health care surrogate can take care of things if needed, whereas the lviing will gives carte blanche to whoever happens to be there when it is determined that you are terminal.The most expensive and aggravating time is not death - it’s incompetence and dying, and having your daughter on the checkbook is not adequate. Get the POA.


17 posted on 02/24/2014 6:17:05 AM PST by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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Consider spending a couple of bucks on a lawyer and get it done right. Well worth a couple hundred dollars or less. That said:

Pennsylvania will recognize just about anything as a will. A handwritten note or even a video will suffice. Getting it notarized isn’t needed (still OK though) but a witness is a darn good idea. Date the document. Make sure people you love have copies and know where to find them. If your belongings are as few as you say a living trust isn’t going to do much for you, unless you have some out of the ordinary wishes about your land or it is working farmland and you want it to keep it that way after you die. This is not always true with some other states, but you say you live in PA. Beware of people that want to sell you an expensive, fancy trust for more than a thousand dollars. It will most likely be nothing more than an expensive phone directory sized book that won’t do anything more than a simple will would do for you.


18 posted on 02/24/2014 6:17:45 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: SatinDoll
It IS in both names ...

We had a death in our church a couple of weeks ago and my neighbor and I were reminiscing, which led to questions about what we had done or were going to do, and the idea of probate came up.

Our conversation just led me to think that I needed paper to guarentee the transfer when I had always thought ... if the bank acct is joint (and it is) and the deed is in both names (and it is), the only thing would be the cars which I think are in my name (easily handled by my friendly neighborhood fellow school board member and notary ... )

19 posted on 02/24/2014 6:19:01 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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If one dies intestate, with no will, the inheritence laws of the resident state take hold. I don’t know if Pennsylvania has inheritence taxes so no comment on that. This article covers the laws of succession in Pa:

http://www.wolfbaldwin.com/Articles/Dying-Without-a-Will-Intestate-Succession.shtml

It is always better to pass with a will or trust rather than having some leech attorney act for the state to sort out the
estate issues IMO.


20 posted on 02/24/2014 6:20:09 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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