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Good Morning America ^ | Feb 21, 2014 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/21/2014 2:39:18 PM PST by butterdezillion

Remember that video of the plane crash in Hawaii after which Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy "died"?

You need to take a closer look.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: abcgov; birthcertificate; butterdezillion; certifigate; crackpottheory; deadpool; eligibility; frogman; fuddy; gma; hawaii; hi; naturalborncitizen; nightline; obamabc; otralocamas; tinfoilhat
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To: 4Zoltan

Just to make sure you know - I pinged you on that last one because I thanked you in it, not because I thought you were one of the werewolves on the thread.


701 posted on 05/15/2014 4:35:24 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

I realized that when I got to the last line. But in the beginning I was “What???”


702 posted on 05/15/2014 5:07:27 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Kickass Conservative
I cannot believe this silliness is still being discussed.

There are so many things that would have gone exactly to plan, without one slight variation to even begin to make this silly Conspiracy workable.

This isn’t a Batman Movie, it was a Plane Crash and the Woman had Health issues. She could have been offed in am much easier fashion if that was someone’s intent.

This is well below what should be FR’s Standards.

Are you kidding? FR has had a very vocal Birther contingent for years.
703 posted on 05/15/2014 5:09:28 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Only fools believe a person who posts an internet picture but refuses to produce the document.


704 posted on 05/15/2014 5:33:56 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Ray76

I’m not into conspiracy theories - except as a form of amusement. I try to laugh at them.

(There is an exception: I don’t think that people who advocate the Truther conspiracy are amusing. They are just vile.)


705 posted on 05/15/2014 5:39:59 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: hosepipe

HAHAHA!!!


706 posted on 05/15/2014 5:47:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: EveningStar

What conspiracy?


707 posted on 05/15/2014 6:20:14 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Ray76

I laugh off most conspiracy theories these days. When I was much younger, I was really gullible, though.


708 posted on 05/15/2014 6:32:00 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

You’ve already said that. No one is talking about conspiracies except you. Quit trying to hijack the thread.


709 posted on 05/15/2014 6:56:01 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: EveningStar

What about when people are so gullible they believe conspiracies are false?


710 posted on 05/15/2014 6:57:36 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Fledermaus

Last time I checked, I’m entitled to my opinion.

I am also a Monthly Contributor. Can’t quite afford $30,000 a Month though.

Want to wear a Tin Hat, go at it. It’s a free Country.

I get three Replies that insinuate I’m the crazy guy for not buying into some silly Conspiracy Theory that is laughable at best and very sad at worst.


711 posted on 05/15/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Kickass Conservative; Fledermaus

I’m on our side, KC. :)

The X-Files was one of my favorite shows, but it was make believe.


712 posted on 05/15/2014 8:14:02 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I was a Regional Logistics Manager for a Fortune 500 Company for over Ten Years.

It took a whole lot of planning and execution to get everything working in sync to meet defined schedules and financial deadlines.

The legs this silly, and I mean really silly fairytale has maintained is really amusing, as in people have way too much time on their hands.

The Country is being taken over by power mad Tyrants and we’re looking for a Where’s Wally dressed Scuba Gear that looks like a Tennis Shoe. It can’t get any better. LOL


713 posted on 05/15/2014 8:41:23 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The records I’ve been able to get through FOIA requests so far show that a bunch of people really screwed up the logistics on this project. So you’re right; it was a stupid project for them to take on. But the records and the video all show that as stupid as it was, they did take on this project.

The extra people in the water within the first minutes after the crash - 5 of which I’ve shown in screenshots, and at least 4 of which are alluded to in the official records - could only have been there so soon if the crash was planned. And the discrepancies regarding who first reported the crash, when, and how, as well as the death being reported in the local media before anybody was supposed to have known there WAS a death, and a bunch more similar discrepancies... all point to this crash being planned in advance, and some of the logistics getting mixed up in the actual implementation.

For what purpose was it planned? I don’t know. It depends on whether she was really dead at the end of it. As far as I know, nothing disclosed in the redacted autopsy depends on there having been a dead body for the examiner to examine, which is odd for an autopsy. Hopefully more information will be coming soon through outstanding FOIA requests.

If you don’t think this makes sense, then don’t worry about it. If time is going to be wasted on this, let it be my time and not yours. There are plenty of other “non-conspiracies” to focus on, like Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS-gate, NSA-gate, etc - all of which represent the lawlessness of this regime and the utter failure of the system to actually live out the checks and balances built into the Constitution.

Looking at your recent comments, I see that you’ve got plenty of other things to deal with as well. I will be praying for healing for your leukemia. I recently had a high platelet count and had to confront the fear of the same thing you’re facing. Fortunately for me the high count was apparently a lab error, and I hope and pray that you will have the strength you need to fight this battle again and will get good news and ultimately win this battle.


714 posted on 05/15/2014 9:38:34 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

>”There are plenty of other “non-conspiracies” to focus on, like Benghazi, Fast and Furious, IRS-gate, NSA-gate, etc - all of which represent the lawlessness of this regime and the utter failure of the system to actually live out the checks and balances built into the Constitution”<

Sorry, I don’t put this in the same league as the REAL Conspiracies you listed above. We are being ruled by Tyrants, and that is because the Media is full of Collaborators who hopefully will pay for their Treachery against the American People, even the ones who Vote Democrat because of their own wilful ignorance.

Thank you for your kind thoughts regarding my Illness. My symptoms have never been typical, low White Count that should be excessive, no Lymph Node, Spleen or Liver involvement and a very rapid decline in all the Blood Markers. It’s like they fell off a Cliff.

Still looking into other causes, even with a Bone Marrow Biopsy showing 50% involvement crowding out healthy Blood Cell Production. Could be internal Blood loss, typically Colon related. Waiting for some results to se if further investigation is needed, Cat Scan, Colonoscopy etc.

Thanks again for your kind thoughts, I appreciate it.


715 posted on 05/15/2014 9:53:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: butterdezillion

I forgot to add that I hope your Results turn out Negative.
From my experience, this isn’t a whole lot of fun.

Whatever the news, do what you need to do and NEVER give up Hope. I will pray for you my FRiend.


716 posted on 05/15/2014 9:56:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I hear what you’re saying and agree; the other issues are far more important than this one. The reason I’ve focused on this one is because it is clear to me that ABC knew what was in this footage and deliberately hid it from the American public. I very strongly believe that as long as the treasonous media is allowed to continue on as if anything from them could be trusted, this country is lost. It is the media which has allowed all those important subjects I mentioned before (and a bunch more too) to be squirmed out of by the regime. Until people wake up to that treason and find a way to do something about it - like demand law enforcement do its job - we are sunk worse than that Cessna in the water.

I think in many ways we are probably kindred spirits, just coming at things from different angles.

The time of waiting, trying to figure out what’s wrong, is such a stinker. Were your symptoms like this when you had leukemia before - the numbers suddenly dropping off the map?

My 14-year-old daughter was diagnosed with scoliosis (fortunately fairly mild) this year and the past few weeks she’s been having severe joint pain and diarrhea. The last few days she’s had blood in her stool. They did the blood tests for rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, infection, etc and everything came back normal today but it looks like we’re going to have to see if she’s got ulcerative colitis at a young age like her dad had. It’s hard to see her cry because she’s scared, but it’s helped her to know that if we find out what it is maybe we can at least help the pain go away.

The biopsy shows cancer in the bone marrow? If there is internal bleeding reducing the number of healthy blood cells in the body would that contribute to the power of the cancer? I mean, if there’s blood loss that can be stopped, could the production in the marrow improve? Can they do stem-cell production of platelets for you? My friend’s father went through stem-cell marrow transplants and it helped him for a fairly long time.

Like I said, I will be praying for you. For health, strength, peace, courage, and lots of joy in the middle of a tough time.


717 posted on 05/15/2014 10:17:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: butterdezillion

First of all, I hope they figure out what is affecting your Daughter. I cannot imagine how your Family is dealing with something like that. I will Pray for her as well and I assume others here who see this Post will join me.

The last time I dropped out of Remission four years ago the numbers came down pretty fast, but not to such low levels. I had a 7.4 Hemoglobin, should be 13.2 and a 15,000 White Count that should be 150,000 minimum. My Oncologist was surprised I didn’t have a Heart Attack from pushing Water.

I never got over 11.2 Hemoglobin after the last round of Chemo, but it was something I could live with. This time the number was lower than it was when I was in the middle of Treatment the last go round, never under 9.2.

I’m sure this will be an interesting Roller Coaster Ride. Never had to have Blood and Platelet Transfusions before, but I’ve had Eight Units of Blood and Three Units of Platelets over the past three weeks so I can survive and tolerate the Chemo. The Transfusions, Two Units at a time are only lasting about a week or so, not good enough.
I’m nothing but a Human Pin Cushion now.

The older I get the more difficult it becomes, but that’s Life and nobody said Life was fair. I’m still the luckiest guy walking.

Again, my best to you and your Family, be strong.


718 posted on 05/15/2014 10:44:13 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Opinion, yes. Setting “standards”, no. Even in this post you are setting standards based on your opinion. “Silly” and “laughable” and “sad”.

Well, I have the opinion your are judgemental jerk.


719 posted on 05/16/2014 12:22:01 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: butterdezillion

And here is where the geometry lessons should have helped you. You simply have two many unknowns (camera position, height of camera, position of the sun, time of day .. just a few of many to start with) to say anything meaningful about these photos, and overlaying them as you have done is frankly just silly.

But we’re back to where we were a few months ago when you ask “what do you see”, but offer no explanation yourself for what is usually some minor trick of the light that has confused you. So here is your challenge - either put forward a fully thoughtout theory that we can than analyse, explaining the body in the casket and how so many hundreds of people have kept their silence about this conspiracy, or accept that when you ask us to pour over stills from a video of poor quality and don’t explain why, you will get pushback, and some of it will be rightly mocking.


720 posted on 05/16/2014 1:48:46 AM PDT by cousteausghost
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